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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Its been a defence for several hundred years, in fact! Showing intent is one of the three things you need to establish in every criminal case for it to be considered valid. Fuck the cops for dropping this case though, how in hell was there no intent to commit a crime here wtf.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Weird, I've literally always heard "ignorance of the law is no excuse to break the law", which seems to imply criminal intent doesn't matter. Only that the action that was take was illegal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

There are strict liability crimes. Like if you admit to shooting someone but maintain it was an accident. You won't get a murder charge, (or murder 1 depending on state) but you are going to get time in prison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well......you see......here's the thing........

Fuck you!

~Sincerely, the rich and elite, which control the legal system which is not meant to ever be in YOUR favor. It's a big club, and you ain't in it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

System working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It's not intent to break the law, it's intent to do what you did. If I walk out of a store with a can of tuna I didn't pay for, that's shoplifting, right? Well, not necessarily.

If I walk into a store, pick it up off the shelf, hide it in my jacket, and dart for the exit, probably.

If my toddler slipped it into my jacket pocket, and I didn't notice, probably not.

If I put it in my jacket pocket because my toddler started to run away, I forgot about it, and paid for a cart of groceries... Maybe? But unlikely to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't an accident.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Intent to perform an action.

If they legitimately didn't know there was spying software on the computers and it was discovered later then they didn't intend to do it. But they did intend to spy on the students, and it doesn't matter if they thought it was legal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

"Strict liability" crimes are the exception to that rule. A lot of relatively minor crimes, like code violations or letting minors into a bar, are in that category.