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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Ancient people developed technology to cool their buildings long before electricity. Windcatchers, awnings, evaporative coolers combined with good old-fashioned thermal insulation were all very effective technologies for keeping cool in otherwise inhospitable places.

There are serious talks about reintroducing these in some places to reduce ballooning electricity use from AC.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think the debate in that is passive vs active rather than just using technology. If the Hoover Dam were to become inoperable, would residents of Las Vegas be able to survive? And if it’s questionable what does aid, or worse a middle of the desert mass evacuation, even consist of? And this avoids even discussing current residents who in the face of increasing temperatures and energy prices may not be able to keep up with cooling needs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh, absolutely. That would be an instant massive humanitarian disaster. I was more trying to respond to this though:

just pointing out that since the first human put an animal skin over their shoulders we’ve been developing technology to live in places that we’d otherwise not be able to exist in.

I think there is a big difference between the passive warming / cooling of clothing vs the huge energy requirement, spent resources and emissions required to basically run your entire home / office / factory / hotel as a giant fridge.

Essentially going through some of the ancient technologies used for cooling buildings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

If the Hoover Dam becomes inoperable, the entire Southwest US is in trouble. It provides water for farms and power, both mostly in California. Las Vegas would actually be the last to feel the effects of Lake Mead drying up because they've installed a deeper "straw" to draw water from, along with a pumping station.

https://www.snwa.com/where-southern-nevada-gets-its-water/our-regional-water-system/intake-no-3.html

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Serious talks? At least insulation is the standard in new construction, at least in Germany. Works for winter and summer. Add ventilation with energy recuperation, solar panels and a heat pump, many homes produce more energy than they consume in a yearly scale.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Hold up there pardner, homes producing more energy than they consume? That sounds vaguely communistic-like, and we don't take kindly to that sort of thinkin' round here. Just gonna hunker down and let the invisible hands of Jesus and the market take care of us 'cause this here's the greatest nation on the whole earth. /S

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I meant to imply that thermal insulation is a prerequisite to any cooling tech, new or old. Looking at my comment again, I just worded it badly.

That's pretty cool. Getting modern insulation on older apartment blocks here in Romania is an uphill struggle. You need every occupant of the block to sign off on it, and that always results in massive headaches from someone who doesn't want to pay the 30 Euros per person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I would love to see it!