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    [–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    The aur usually has what I need, only have had to manually build once... Before I found the aur package. Endeavoros is a good easy way to get into arch if you are worried about the manual configuration.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    Alright, cool. Why not Manjaro? I did a quick Google search and saw people saying Manjaro is bloated in comparison to EndevorOS, are there other reasons as well?

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, they like forgot to reupload a new cert 3 times.

    And they hold packages back. EndeavourOS uses Arch's repos directly, whereas Manjaro has it's own repos. EndeavourOS is just Arch with a GUI installer and some handy prepicked choices, like a DE.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    Thanks!

    [–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, they like forgot to reupload a new cert 3 times.

    It happens to everybody, including Microsoft, Google, Amazon etc.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

    Hasn't been updated in a while, but still valid:

    https://manjarno.pages.dev/

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

    That thing hasn't been "valid" in half a decade.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

    There are three distros derived from Arch that try to do very different things:

    • Endeavour is Arch with a friendly installer. That's it. It will install faster but then you'll be using Arch, and that's not a good idea for a beginner.
    • Garuda is also Arch but with a few more helpful tools and apps. Same reasoning as above.
    • Manjaro uses Arch packages as an upstream source (like Ubuntu vs Debian) but does things to them to make it stable. Which, unfortunately, makes a certain kind of Arch fan foam at the mouth and you've probably already been linked to "manjarno" and similar idiocy. So you'd have to deal with that.

    But seriously, I have mixed feelings recommending Manjaro to a beginner. The distro itself is super-stable and easy to use because you basically have to do nothing. I have non-computer savvy family members on Manjaro without admin privileges and it works perfectly.

    But the trick is that doing nothing part. You have to leave it alone and not modify the way it works, and beginners often feel the need to tinker with the system.. Not only that but it's hard as a beginner to figure out online what's generic Arch advice and what's Manjaro-specific and which of that can be applied safely on Manjaro and which is an Arch-ism that will ruin your install.

    If you're set on trying Manjaro I can offer a list of recommendations to give you an idea of how to navigate the dos and donts.