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BULLSHIT!!!
Will someone with a fucking Xitter account slap this motherfucker in the goddamned face for printing this MAGA garbage?!
TWO SECONDS OF SEARCHING WOULD HAVE FIXED THIS i swear these fucking twitter journalists who pretend to know sweet fuck all and get a masthead over their diarrhetic prose GOD DAMN we do not need this fucking shit
Edit to add:
Concluding that Russia interfered with an election to Trump's benefit isn't the same thing as concluding that Trump conspired with the Russians
Even if the report had concluded they conspired, concluding they conspired isn't the same thing as having "sufficient evidence to seek criminal charges"
Mueller very specifically refused to conclude that there wasn't sufficient evidence to charge Donny.
from here
maybe he did but that's the only definitive statement i can find from him on the matter
Mueller was talking about obstruction. It's hard to prove conspiracy if your witnesses are allowed to obstruct.
mueller released the report in 2 volumes, one talking about russian interference and collusion, and one talking about obstruction
it seems pretty clear from the quote and rest of the source that he's not talking about obstruction there
And
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So: there was collusion, it was tied to the predisent, who then exerted “undue influence” to stop the investigation into the collusion. That’s what they found.
Were there charges? They weren’t ever going to bring charges - which I 100% disagree with, but which they nevertheless say was dictated by a DoJ “guideline memo” “not to charge a sitting president”.
These 11 Mueller Report Myths Just Won’t Die. Here’s Why They’re Wrong
i presume you're pulling that from volume 2 of the report, since you didn't link anything
volume 1 deals with election interference
volume 2 deals with obstruction of justice
or in other words, your quote isn't relevant to evidence for conspiracy with russia
"establishing multiple links" isn't the same thing as concluding they conspired, but even if it was, the second line of my initial comment addresses this:
this is talking about obstruction again, not collusion
your linked article doesn't support the statement "mueller found enough evidence to convict trump" at any point, which means the journalist was correct
Speaking of, where the hell is our fucking Unredacted report??
the memory hole
Not to mention trump fired the AG and replaced him with yes man Bill Barr right before. It's possible Barr pushed the can't prosecute a sitting president on Mueller at the direction of Trump. The Mueller report was super damning, but no one took the time to read it, and Republicans just go sEe? WiTcH HunT! When the reality is the they just chose not to prosecute because Trump was the sitting president.