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ASHLAND — Twenty-six Amish who refused to pay their fines for violating a law that requires flashing lights on their buggies appeared in court on Friday.

Once there, Ashland Municipal Court Judge John Good ruled out the possibility of jail time for them and instead said he would impose liens on their real estate.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Bikes should have daytime strobes and headlamps. Cars should always have their headlights on. Visibility reduces accidents.

You can be on a curved road or a hill and have vehicles you can see that are not within your headlight beams. Further, if a vehicle is obstructed by a curve or hill, you may see lights illuminate the dark ahead of you before the vehicle comes into view.

There's no reason not to have lights on vehicles on the road.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Further, if a vehicle is obstructed by a curve or hill, you may see lights illuminate the dark ahead of you before the vehicle comes into view.

Plus this sometimes works during the day in shadey areas or when it is very overcast.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Or when people are idiots and just don't turn them on when they're supposed to.

You'd think with how prevalent automatic headlights are nowadays there'd be a lot less people driving with them off in the rain/dark, yet every single night I see at least one idiot doing it in a car that I know has automatic headlights.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why do they turn this feature off? It's mind-blowing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are some very edge case scenarios where you’d want it off. Ex: a while back I was sitting in a parking garage and my headlights were shining right into some poor dudes face 0.5 floors below me.

But I think it mostly comes down to these people are fucking morons and probably shouldn’t be allowed to drive on public roads.

The issue could be solved with something similar to what ford does with their shift lever. If you turn the car off when it’s in drive and try to get out the car puts itself in park and the shift lever moves into the park position. Just do that with the headlights and snap them back into auto every time you turn the car on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

For sure. I turn mine off in parking garages. Then you know I turn them back on auto because I'm not a total idiot haha.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The idea of having lights on these buggies is literally counter to their whole belief system. You or I might not share the same world view but it is mind-blowing that you wonder why the Amish would not run electric lights on their horse and buggies........

Wait... I am an idiot and this was not the right statement to make in this case. Please point and laugh at me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

It probably has more to do with always on dashboards and infotainment systems in SUVs more then anything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Bikes should have daytime strobes and headlamps. Cars should always have their headlights on. Visibility reduces accidents.

This is so utterly car brained. Bicycles and Amish buggies aren't even remotely the ones making the danger here. Are we going to require stupid flashing beacons on pedestrians now to?? No, the solution here is a road diet, traffic calming, speed governors on SUVs, and modal separation.

There's no reason not to have lights on vehicles on the road.

Because it costs money to run lights, and good lights cost money. (https://www.bumm.de/en/products/akku-scheinwerfer/parent/1922/produkt/1922qmla.html)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, and we should fit all the wildlife with strobes too, because drivers should absolutely not be responsible for driving slowly enough to actually be able to see an obstruction within the range of their own headlights in time to stop without smashing into it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Right, because that's entirely the same thing.

Vehicles on the road are there intentionally, operated by humans who are respon- You know what, man? You win. I really don't care enough about this to keep arguing with you. I've explained this, and if you still don't get it, that's on you.