this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
792 points (74.6% liked)
Memes
45583 readers
1442 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
God forbid you have to pay for stuff.
God forbid you ~~have to~~ can pay for stuff if you want.
It's a third party app. One of many. With an optional purchase to support the dev. Honestly...
You mean the schuckster trying to make a buck using another free API after the last one booted him out? Guy's a slimeball.
What a genuinely unhinged take.
You're not paying for the API, you're paying for the dev time.
A slimeball for having an optional charge for a product they have made and have input their own time and skills into?
That's a hot take, it's still a shit take, but hot as well
Don't forget that he added ads into the app for a platform that doesn't have ads and then is selling the option to remove them.
Exactly. That's his m.o., find a free content farm and charge people to access it. And yet people eat it up, which is insane.
It's blowing my mind that people on here are happy to throw $100+ at a mobile app to access a free website that has multiple free and very good apps, especially when the app they're paying for is inserting ads into the experience to make people pay to remove the ads.
$20 one time for a well developed app that I use multiple hours a day is inexpensive.
I pay almost as much to multiple streaming services PER MONTH for a shitty experience and sometimes not a completely ad-free experience.
Anyway, in all honesty I chose the $1.99/mo because it gives the dev $24/yr into perpetuity. I also donate to instances. I also use Connect and Jerboa and Liftoff. It's whatever.
I pay for Sync and Telegram. Telegram doesn't even have ads, I just want to throw money at the things that provide me entertainment and value on a daily basis. Just because you don't like to pay for things doesn't mean you should project that mindset onto other people.
I paid for sync for Reddit, I donated to my Lemmy instance and I'll pay for Sync for Lemmy once I decide for myself whether I take the subscription, simply ad free or one time payment for ultra. As there's still fixes to the pricing going on I'll wait out for that
I guess I'm biased with paying for software since I work at a company that makes software it also offers in its' own SaaS platform. I literally maintain the infrastructure so I'm intimately familiar with those costs. I appreciate anyone who offers software and service for free. But there's always a cost and if you want premium service you'll need to pay for it.
That is ofcourse another justification and easy one since paying for sync is almost nothing to me. I do hope the free Sync keeps being a good alternative for anyone who wants to try it.
I don't want to feel good. I DO feel good. The truth is there would be no need to justify anything were it not for all the FOSS zealots throwing shade instead of just minding their business. Stop worrying about whether we feel good, and start thinking about why you want others to feel bad.
I don't even use sync
But reddit asking to be paid for use of their API was the end of the world for these devs lol
No, reddit demanded ludicrously high fees at barely 30 days notice. It gave nobody any time at all to figure out alternative monetization strategies. Many of the third party apps had expressed their willingness to pay, but that was just absurd
Most of these apps had subscriptions already in place. All they had to do was remove the free access and maybe increase the subscription price a bit to $5/month (I'm not sure what they were charging before).
They also had ads, which they'd no longer gain revenue from. Ads can pull in $3-5 per month per user. That's a massive loss.
They could still have ads.
Not if you remove free access. That's a great way to lose your entire user base.
Apart from the ones that pay. You only need to look at any of the sync posts on here to see there are many, many of them.
Ad revenue very often dwarfs the income from subscribing users by a huge margin. Sure, a single user subscribing pays for themselves plus a little extra, but your free users make up 70-80% of your revenue
Sure, but again - removing the app takes away 100% of the revenue. Keeping it as subscription only gets you some revenue. Some > none.
The amount of people that subscribe would likely not pay for the ongoing maintenance costs unless he's willing to work for shit pay. Every hour he puts into maintenance is an hour he didn't put into maintenance the other version that actually pays well enough
There aren't necessarily ongoing maintenance costs.
No program ever created has never needed any bug fixing or improvement. That's the nature of software engineering.
Sync for Reddit wasn’t just created yesterday. There comes a point where almost all software is stable and will run be fine without updates indefinitely. Established Reddit clients were at that point years ago.
That must be why Sync has been pretty consistently updated for a decade.
Just because it has doesn't mean it needed to be.
If I earned enough money from a product to be able to only work on it, I'd update it too - but that doesn't mean it needs updates or maintenance.
And that's exactly how businesses become complacent and get overtaken by new players in the market
These are reddit clients mate lol.
It doesn't make a difference what part of the market a business lies in, it's still a competitive market
God forbid i can choose the alternative while talk about how expensive the other choice is.
The other choice is free though. You don't have to pay.