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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I agree it's not enough

shrugs

5.1% of $14 is 70 cents an hour. $28 bucks a week.

Don't spend it all in one place.

This economy is objectively atrocious for working people. I'm glad we can connect on the fact that it is most definitely not enough.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This seems like an unnecessary debate, because it's the wrong metric for "fair" pay.

I think the better metric is something like average employee pay ratio to C-suite pay, or something calculated compared to the stock market value, like market capitalization.

Because the biggest problem is that absolute and year-to-year value created by increased productivity is going to the bosses and owners at an unfairly disproportionate rate.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Agreed.

The only upside in this economy is that it's so bad, and there's so little leadership for workers at the federal level, that it's forced unions to become stronger by necessity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Shrugs? Well fuck data I guess

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

On wages, exactly.

A small percent of a poverty wage is objectively worth criticism, if we're putting it nicely. If we want to talk in percentages, you'd need a 400% increase on the minimum wage in Mississippi to get to a living wage.

That's why I'm criticizing this reply.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sorry but I'm criticizing your initial reply to the fact that wage increases are statistically high. Yes, 70 cents raise is a lot for a grocery worker. And it's especially important, as OP said, when compared to the rest of the world US is rising faster.

The "2/3 of states" reply, while factual, was misleading as well as tangential to the original point you were replying to.

Idealism has an important place, but not when it results in pure cynicism

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's only a lot for a grocery worker if cost-of-living is similarly low. It is not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That wasn't my opinion. It's statistically a higher percent raise than average.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

You get that a lot on Lemmy in regards to these topics.

They really don’t like it when you compare them to conservatives denying covid.

Anecdotal evidence is trash except when it’s their anecdotes. Then it’s second to none.