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You can think it's an asshole behaviour without thinking it's appropriate to charge someone with a crime.
If I noise complaint a protest, should everyone e arrested?
Yeah did you read any of it?
He ran red lights, drive erratic, went up to 90kph in down town, ON TOP of behaving like an asshole
He's commenting on noise alone
The noise alone isn't what he got arrested for.
Acknowledged.
That isn't the point of the comment we are focused on.
Then what ARE you focussing on? You cherry pick two points, Boise and arrest, comment on that you shouldn't be arrested for noise... He wasn't arrested for noise, that is cherry picked.
Then when I say this, you say that you were focussed on something else...
What are you, fox news?
Ain't my comment.
Sounds like the original commenter was focused on noise.
Edit that he thinks noise alone is so offensive it's arrestable.
So did the cops, which is why they started walking over to his vehicle.
This whole thing could have been avoided if the cops had just left things alone. But instead they had to go all freakout over someone reving an engine.
There's a fair chance that with a good lawyer all charges get dropped as fruit of a poisoned tree. What a waste of effort and tax payer dollars.
What's the foundation for your belief that they approached the vehicle with the intent to arrest the driver?
It sure isn't this article.
Ok
I'm responding specifically to the comment where the commenters SPECIFIC beef was revving an engine at 1am.
In most modern nations, communities get to determine what is and is not allowed and what the punishment should be, through their local laws.
I don't see a single thing wrong with throwing a public nuisance in jail for the night for doing something that has absolutely no purpose except to bother the community. You wanted to get the community's attention? You got it buddy.
My concerns are the legal apparatus that can not distinguish between nuisance and protest.
I think protests against the genocide in Gaza are appropriate l, and I wouldn't want people rounded up for being a nuisance.
I think the BLM protests were appropriate, and I wouldn't want people rounded up for being a nuisance.
I think the protests around truth and reconciliation are appropriate, and I wouldn't want those people rounded up for being a nuisance.
Basically, I'm just saying the knife cuts BOTH WAYS. Any laws that can shuffle people out of your sight for being something so poorly defined as a "nuisance" opens the gate for it to be applied against protests which are BY DESIGN disruptive to some degree.
No, signs and saying words are not the same as revving an engine, and you won't find a jury who disagrees.
The Jury is completely irrelevant because it's after the fact. What matters is what the police can use as justification.
I'm saying that the bar needs to be raised for what the police can cuff you for. I am not in favour of "arrest them all and let the jury decide" approach to policing.
That's why the police have to be able to present reasonable articulable suspicion that a specific law was being violated. Personally I would love to be arrested for peaceful protest. I have kids' college to pay for and obvious civil rights violations are a quick settlement.
I wish that were the case, because it would provide financial incentive for police restraint.
If the hundreds of university kids who were arrested for Gaza protests hit the lottery, I'd be thrilled.
You'd think so but major civil suits I paid by the taxpayer instead of financially affecting the officer involved. That should change.
I TOTALLY agree.
I think everyone is here thinking I'm pro asshole, I'm just super anti-cop and the problematic systems that enable them.
I am super anti-asshole, but I'm not ready to trade systemic anti-asshole structures that would further enable abusive policing.
The cop station is NOT in a residential community. It's in downtown Winnipeg with exactly zero residences nearby.
Unless they had it towed outside the environment, it exists within a jurisdiction.