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    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    I'm actually curious to know, how is Linux inherently more secure than windows?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    In general it is. Opensource software has less bugs that proprietary. And even those bugs can be mitigated with hardening.

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    That's...a gross oversimplification. Super popular open source projects tend to have few bugs from the sheer number of contributors available to fix them, but active proprietary software has dedicated teams working fulltime every week to deal woth issues. Proprietary stuff is often way wider in scope than open source, so more surface for bugs to creep in. Scope and team size have a lot more to do with bug density than open vs closed source.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I don't know how much effort thoose proprietary software companies put into the actual software. Why is windows so shit? Why is whatsapp buggy? They try to get money with shit software with no optimisations at all.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    How many open source projects have 50 million lines of code like Windows, or legal agreements related to backwards compatibility and version support guarantees?

    A for-profit company is going to focus on whatever generates revenue, sure. But crappy software will lose customers in a non-monopoly scenario. They're not exactly incentivized to make broken things nobody wants.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    They are neither incentivised to make quality of life improvements to their software. Thats why i hate most of them

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Few things, in rough order:

    • Smaller = less attack surface. You can strip a Linux OS down to only what is needed.

    • Open source, so it's can be peered review. There are Unix distros like OpenBSD, that share lot of user space component options, where auditing is a big thing. The whole sunlight and oxygen stops things festering as much. As abosed to things locked in a box in another box down in a cellar.

    • Open source transparency forces corporates to be better. We can see what they are and aren't doing.

    • Diversity. The is no "Linux", it's a ecosystem of Linux distros all built and configured differently, using different components. Think of Linux as just a type of base board in a sea of Unix Lego bits. There are plenty of big deployments on BSD bases that share a lot with some Linux deployments.

    • Unix security is simplier than Windows security, so easer to not mess up.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    If you follow the philosophy that it follows, that is, giving the least possible permission to any application, to make it work, it easily becomes much more secure than Windows.

    On the other hand, if you log into your GUI desktop as root, Bill Gates save you.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    In addition to what others have said, there's the move towards containerized applications on Linux via flatpaks, immutable distributions, and snapshots/rollbacks. There are also distributions like Debian with a delayed package release schedule for added stability and security. Its my understanding that you could have an exceptionally secure, effectively trustless, Linux system beyond what is possible on Mac or Windows.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    Sort of an aside, but I am seeing Microsoft more as a hostile entity that I need to protect myself from.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    Because you can own your system and inspect and alter all of it in case it's needed.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    It's not, in fact out of the box Linux is SIGNIFICANTLY more insecure than windows.

    The thing is, hackers and hack tool makers target the largest market segment to gain the most conversions.

    Apple users used to gush about how virus proof they were until they hit decent market share, and then they got plenty of malware.

    Same thing with Linux but the real difference is you need a few decades of linux experience to fix anything in a timely manner.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

    Linux is SIGNIFICANTLY more insecure than windows.

    Absolutely not true. I assume you don't have a source for this? Besides your butt...?

    UPDATE:: They did not have a source.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    Does Linux come out of the box with A/V and firewalls?

    On second thought, you're dismissive little aside just convinced me to excise you from my internet experience for all eternity.

    Ta...

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    AV is a bandaid for the horrible way software is handled in Windows. Linux is far from perfect, but package repositories are such a step up when it comes to security.

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I try not to argue with cultists. Have a day.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

    Living up to their username...

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago

    There is still the need to add repositories and download packages from the web every so often though. I don’t see why AV isn’t more common. It doesn’t stop the more clever and up to date attacks, but some protection from the simple things wouldn’t hurt.