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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fuck them for that nonsense.

I've tipped zero at a sit down place because the waiter was an ass. (And I'm a generous tipper, because I've done the job and I can now afford to).

Tipping isn't required.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As a non-American, sometimes there threads are hilarious.

I mean I get it it's not as simple as we sometimes mockingly make it out to be, but it is a gratuity, meaning something extra on top of a legally required amount.

So yeah, you're very correct it isn't required.

I mean is tipping truly legally mandatory anywhere in the US? I'm sure they could decide to not serve you again, but by law, is tipping truly required anywhere?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, but not tipping is a great way to ensure you'll get crap service (and potentially tampered with food) if you ever go back.

Also, traditionally tipping was only for waitstaff, "fast" delivery drivers (think pizza delivery and same day couriers maybe), and certain specific one on one service scenarios (hair stylist, barber).

This expansion into other things is mostly because everyone is starting to use the same payment processing pads that have the tipping menu turned on by default and hard to disable, because the company making the processing pads takes a small percentage of every transaction. Combine that with opportunistic business owners figuring out they can pressure anxious people into tipping by just implying they should, and here we are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No, but not tipping is a great way to

Just as I thought. I do understand the culture, I've just never been personally subjected to it. I would ofc tip in the US, but that's one reason it's not high up on my list of places I want to go to.

Well, traditionally it started out as a way to keep your slaves doing slave work without compensation while saying they're not slaves anymore and definitely are getting paid through tips.

https://civilrightsdocs.info/pdf/minimumwage/History-Tipped-Minimum-Wage.pdf

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

I think there's a lot of establishments that forget that tipping is not a mandate. It's a courtesy and it should be based on your level of courtesy to the person that you are hoping to receive courtesy from. For me, no courtesy given, then you're not getting that courtesy. Beyond that, the wait staff needs to be pissed off at the restaurant owner for not paying enough.

Only exception to that rule would be Dick's Last Resort, but their schtick is being rude