UK Politics

3143 readers

159 users here now

General Discussion for politics in the UK.
Please don't post to both [email protected] and [email protected] .
Pick the most appropriate, and put it there.

Posts should be related to UK-centric politics, and should be either a link to a reputable news source for news, or a text post on this community.

Opinion pieces are also allowed, provided they are not misleading/misrepresented/drivel, and have proper sources.

If you think "reputable news source" needs some definition, by all means start a meta thread. (These things should be publicly discussed)

Posts should be manually submitted, not by bot. Link titles should not be editorialised.

Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
Message the mods if you feel something really should be removed, or if a user seems to have a pattern of awful comments.

[email protected] appears to have vanished! We can still see cached content from this link, but goodbye I guess! :'(

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

Lammy says Christianity and class give him common ground with JD Vance (www.theguardian.com)

submitted 5 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

27 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Vance has previously described Britain under Labour as the first “truly Islamist” country with a nuclear weapon.

Lammy told BBC Breakfast: “Let me just say on JD Vance that I’ve met him now on several occasions, we share a similar working class background with addiction issues in our family. We’ve written books on that. We’ve talked about that.

“And we’re both Christians so I think I can find common ground with JD Vance.”
[…]
Expanding on his views on Vance on BBC Radio 4, Lammy said he had started to discuss the US view on global defence at the security conference in Munich in February.

“Yes, he has had strong things to say about European defences, and he has had a point of view about Ukraine,” Lammy said. “That’s why I’ve been engaged with JD Vance for many, many months.”

The foreign secretary once called Donald Trump a “neo-Nazi sociopath” and “a tyrant in a toupee”, but has distanced himself from those comments as the US presidential election has approached.

More recently Lammy has spoken at conservative events in the US, telling the Hudson Institute in May that he “gets the agenda that drives ‘America first’”.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I see a lot of criticism in here. What realistically would be the best course of action? There's a high possibility that Trump, despite being utterly unsuitable to being charge of a light switch, will be elected president of the US again. Realistically the only thing we can do is just try and make the best of it. And if that means trying to find a way to work with utterly the thing we're going to have to do.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"Our only option is to give in to fascism" 🙄

(yes, cooperating with it, accepting it as a legitimate partner for negotiation, is giving in. When one side is actively not only calling but acting to oppress multiple groups of people, there should be zero tolerance)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

We don't give into fascism though. The fascism will exist regardless of our opinion of it.

Cutting our own noses off to spite our face does no one any good at all

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Sure, if he's elected then Vance is someone Lammy will likely have to work with. He didn't have to announce that he had so much in common with an ethnonationalist before he's even been elected though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

There seems to be a lot of blind hatred for anything that isn't Corbyn's Labour on this community.