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European politicians and diplomats had already prepared for changes to their relationship with the US in the event of a second Donald Trump presidency.

Now that the Republican candidate has chosen Ohio Senator JD Vance as his running mate, those differences appear even more stark on prospects for the war in Ukraine, security and trade.

A vocal critic of US aid to Ukraine, Mr Vance told this year’s Munich Security Conference that Europe should wake up to the US having to “pivot” its focus to East Asia. 

"The American security blanket has allowed European security to atrophy," he said.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He's saying he wants to let Putin have Europe so we can focus our military on China.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Aren't China and Russia tryna get fancy with each other right now? Or is Russia like an ammo addict and China was happy to foot the bill?

Either way, leaving NATO is not date bayo. I believe in the power of friendship and that includes nation friends.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I truly have no effing clue what is going on with MAGA and Russia. MAGA has some kind of love for Putin, despite Republicans absolutely despising the Russians (COMMIES!!!) since before WW2 ended.

When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, Reagan wet himself. He couldn't get weapons into Afghani hands fast enough. Now they roll over and beg Putin to rub their bellies. Vance is using the tension with China as an excuse to abandon Europe.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Republicans absolutely despising the Russians (COMMIES!!!)

Whoa there. Putin changed the name of the KGB. It's the FSB now. All is good.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Mainly it’s Russia’s influencing efforts. Many Western right-wing politicians are in their pockets, their money supports many hard-right parties, and their propaganda directly influences and pushes voters to these parties. So primarily it’s a practical relationship of aligned goals, as Russia’s global activity helps them get more power domestically, so they are more lenient with Russia’s fuckery in e.g. Ukraine.

Secondarily there is a sympathy, as Putin did many things they would like to do domestically, building a white Christian anti-LGBT nation with a strong hand (at least in perception). I also once read an article I couldn’t find now, that explained how in global Christian “church politics”, Russia managed to get very close to and influence US Christian leaders, so that might also have an impact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I could certainly imagine him holding the Mearsheimer position of "Russia is America's natural ally against China", though to be clear this is me speculating