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Conservatives are shooting conservatives now, so I guess I better vote conservative for being so brave by standing up to conservatives.
Not the first time they go against each other, this is just the most high profile target so far. Remember that redditor who murdered his own father because he thought he's some sort of liberal? Or when they tried to hang Mike Pence? There's quite a few such cases, just typically not the former president / current presidential candidate. Who knows what went on in this guys head, he was likely kinda deranged like many of the other perps were. Maybe something about Trump made him think he wronged him in some way or the recent reveals actually opened his eyes and made him feel betrayed. Or he was just conservative but anti-Trump and saw him as dangerous enough to make use of his right to squash a fascist uprising. There's so many potential scenarios.
right around 20 years old is a prime time for schizophrenia to surface
We already know he was a conservative voter, there’s no need to pile on any other mental illness diagnoses
Kids are also just ridiculously vulnerable to radical ideologies. It's entirely possible this guy thought Trump wasn't extreme enough.
I've always said that if the wrong person love bombed me at exactly the right moment in my life I could have easily been part of a cult. 20 year old me needed a fucking hug and would have worshipped Marmaduke or whatever to get one. Even in my 30s at exactly the wrong moment I could have gotten sucked into some fucked up shit because my life had several extremely negative things happen all at once.
That's me right now, in my early 30s and the last 14 months has just been a non stop onslaught of bad. I have to rebuild my social circle from the ground up. Doing my best not to get into anything I'll regret later
Keep your chin up. You're absolutely not alone. By the sounds of it part of what you are going through is part of what I went through.
I'll say it ain't easy, but after I did come out of it (only one largeish regret!) things ended up better than ever. It took a lot of effort and more luck than I'm willing to admit but it was so worth it.
I dunno if I like jumping to mental illness as an explanation for this in reinforcing established and disproven stereotypes
There's always some mental health issues with something like this. The very concept of killing someone and knowing you're going to die as a result requires an altered mental state.
I wouldn't say so in every situation. I'm sure plenty parents would say they would die to defend their kid, and I don't think that would quality for an altered mental state.
I mostly do agree though, but I do think you can sacrifice yourself as a rational and mentally healthy person. But it certainly not a choice that hypothetical person would make lightly.
I'm just pointing out a truth about the disease. If you have ever witnessed someone change almost overnight at that age, it's a possibility an undiagnosed illness is revealing itself. People do some whacked out shit, especially if they are intelligent.
Mike Pence is gonna roll in votes.
He’s a law-and-order conservative: there was nothing criminal about Trump’s failed coup d’état
And Thomas Matthew Crooks was just a peaceful tourist doing peaceful touristy things, just like all the Jan6 ~~rioters~~ peaceful tourists - I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Like Pence almost did :)
There is no fucking place for that level of cleverness at a time like this.