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A community devoted to alternatives to monoculture lawns, with an emphasis on native plants and conservation. Rain gardens, xeriscaping, strolling gardens, native plants, and much more! (from official Reddit r/NoLawns)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Lawns were grown to demonstrate social status by having land that was not needed for food production to fulfil one's immediate needs.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In the same time period, eating meat at every meal was a demonstration of social status - only the wealthy and powerful had enough livestock to slaughter and eat them routinely.

Like lawns, and meat, and college education, and a dozen other forms of conspicuous consumption - privileges of the wealthy during the Victorian era and earlier, when industrialized society made those privileges cheaper, the middle class seized on them to emulate the upper class, and after a hundred fifty years those privileges became expectations.

And conspicuous consumption as a status symbol, when universalized to the majority of society, led inevitably to unsustainable consumption and the world as it is now.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So like.... I'm agreeing with the things you're saying, but the way it's phrased makes it seem like you're saying "It's actually the poor people who are the problem"

Just struck me as kind of funny lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

In a way it is. Colonial empires maintain the support of the proletariat in the imperial cores by funneling wealth from colonized nations back to those people. If you're better off than your parents were, and your parents are better off than your grandparents were, why do you care that your ruling oligarchy is genociding its way across the planet and shoveling stolen profits into its insatiable maw?

English commoners forgave their empire's industrial scale genocide of African slaves on Haitian plantations because that genocide provided white sugar for their tea.

American commoners forgive the wholesale torture and murder of Latin American peasants because we can buy cheap bananas at the supermarket.

The top 20% of Americans control 80% of America's wealth. But they don't consume 80% of the resources America consumes. They don't burn 80% of the gas, they don't eat 80% of the food, they don't produce 80% of the pollution. What's killing the world is the bread and circuses - or rather the cars, cell phones, and factory farms - that give all but the very poorest Americans an artificially inflated standard of living at the cost of the world as a whole.

But telling poor Americans "your standard of living is too high" when the entire capitalist machine tells them they have the right to all the consumption they can buy and the best standard of living they can earn, it's a hard sell, you know?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

What else can you put there to keep weeds away and also have an open space to enjoy? Concrete and paving is not an acceptable answer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It depends on what you need to enjoy the space.

If you're looking for a grass alternative and aren't running around on it all the time, roman chamomile can be a good, low-growing, pet-safe plant. We used this on my neighbor's postage stamp front lawn so he wouldn't have to mow but it would still look nice and intentional. There are also a handful of other low-growing plants which require much less maintenance and are more drought-tolerant than grass, but they tend to be best for low-traffic areas, so if you're out there playing catch or capture the flag with your kids most days they're probably not as good as grass.

If you're in a shady area, moss might be an option. It also prefers low traffic.

And the option abhored by HOAs and your fussiest neighbors: just don't bother maintaining a perfect lawn. A lot of the work and environmental damage comes from keeping a perfect monocrop of a specific grass cultivar. Fertilizer to keep the soil good enough (which gets washed into local waterways and causes algae blooms) pesticides (which kill bees and a slew of other insects) and herbicides to kill any plants that try to compete with the grass (which remain in the soil as well). Traps for rodents that try to exist in the yard. Not to mention the energy and person-hours spent on trimming it frequently. Just accepting that grass isn't really meant to form a thick lawn in most areas, and will look a bit patchy, multi-hued, and feature some other plants, will greatly reduce the effort and damage caused.

Or if you can't stand the thought of doing that (or will get in trouble) consider downsizing it a little - section off the least-used sections of your lawn, plant some cool native trees or shrubs, throw down some mulch so it looks intentional.

And the last option (where applicable): no grass.

When I was a kid our house was in the woods, with no clearing to speak of, so we mostly just played on the forest floor, which was mostly leaves and pine needles. If you pick up the sticks and keep it somewhat open, it can look really beautiful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Currently already have a biodiverse lawn of what seems to be like 6 different species including clover, plus some different mosses where it's more shady. It's not super high traffic.

I have attached some images of the lawn from various seasons to give you an idea. I don't know what a HOA is but I don't need to fertilise the lawn (animals do that for me), or use any pesticides (animals do that for me too). I water it only in the summer. In terms of maintenance it really just gets mowed when it gets long. Starting to think the no lawn thing might not apply here? Let me know what you would do

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I don't think they're talking about you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a long list in the pinned post at the top of this sub.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It's just a list of plants, I already have a garden that's too big haha

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Plastic desert! No thanks!

First thing we did when we moved into our house was rip up the astroturf.