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Google takes first major step for E2EE interoperability across all messaging apps (APK teardown) (www.androidauthority.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

RCS has been around since 2010

15 years and it's still problematic? Sounds like something that just needs to be let go.

Stop pushing this garbage that's tied to hardware/sim/phone number on us. What value is that for the end user, seriously? Why would an end user today want a messenger that's tied to a phone number?

Fully-functional, cross-platform, network-based, open-source instant messaging has been available (even on mobile) since 2009, maybe earlier.

What I always ask about RCS: who benefits today from a messaging system that's hard-bound to a phone number?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

The value for the end user, the way Apple and Google do it, is that it works on every phone. It was always intended to be the next generation of MMS messaging. RCS, as designed, never had companies like Google run their own servers, but Google had to because many carriers never bothered to set up RCS in the first place.

Who benefits today? Everyone sharing chat groups with iMessage people. I avoid iMessage but millions of people are stuck with text messaging or ostracised for breaking group messaging (because SMS and MMS are terrible).

Furthermore, RCS isn't just text messaging. The standard also contains digital payments and video calls. It's an open (to carriers) alternative to iMessage that has features ready to go that Signal doesn't even implement yet.

Communication is literally what phone numbers are for.