this post was submitted on 26 Jun 2024
313 points (95.6% liked)

World News

38987 readers
1848 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

someone could come up with a meaningful definition of a country that would exclude Taiwan, but include all other countries

The classical definition of sovereignty doesn't apply to Taiwan, no matter how you slice it. They're not a country in the same way that Palestine and Hawaii and Quebec and Crimea aren't countries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the comparable states of Hawaii, Quebec and Crimea which famously issue their own passports, have their own heads of state, pass their own laws and are not subject to the laws of parent states. At least Palestine is a closer example but Palestinian statehood is in the best case for your argument debatable and that's being very generous.

It seems like you're either trolling as I suspected from your first comment or you've wandered much to far from your safe space where people might actually believe that nonsense. If you want to cast doubt on Taiwan's sovereignty I suggest you stick to the classic talking points from the CCP which are also wrong but at least there's actually something to get into there rather than just clumsy analogies that don't hold up until the faintest scrutiny.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the comparable states of Hawaii, Quebec and Crimea which famously issue their own passports, have their own heads of state, pass their own laws and are not subject to the laws of parent states.

Each of these regions has its own governor and its own municipal laws.

Taiwanese residents who regularly travel to China carry a distinct Chinese passport precisely because the Taiwanese passport isn't recognized. In fact the Taiwanese passport is notorious for how many problems it causes with international travel.

And thanks to the US defense pact, Taiwan is heavily beholden to US sanctions, trade restrictions, and travel embargoes. Taiwan isn't independent, it is occupied territory. Much the same way as Crimea is occupied by Russia.

you’ve wandered much to far from your safe space

Its always fun to see people encounter some facts they haven't seen before and conclude "These facts have simply been misplaced! I'm not supposed to be hearing them. They belong in somewhere else."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Do I really need to explain how state laws vs federal laws work to you? I refused to believe you're that stupid. Taiwan makes it's own laws and is not beholden to obey the laws of a parent state. You're simply lying again.

The Taiwanese passport is fine for international travel, ranking 35 vs China's 68 so by this logic I guess China is also not a country. Again you're simply lying. Maybe you're used to people just accepting things but unfortunately that doesn't hold up to even the slightest scrutiny as with your other 'facts'.

What does trade and embargos have to do with anything unless you're also asserting that the vast majority of countries in the west are also not countries. This is just embarrassing. Again, I suggest sticking to CCP talking points because you don't seem able to defend your position on your own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Every province has its own government and laws.