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All undecided voters in a U.S. swing states focus group hosted by pollster Frank Luntz said President Biden should be replaced as the Democratic nominee after watching his first presidential debate against former President Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know the specific problem with that pollster but the general message of the headline still stands IMO.

Trump’s debate performance was awful, but so was Biden’s, and somehow because this country is weird as hell Biden is held to a much higher standard than Trump while also being immensely unpopular.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No. The message does not stand at all.

Frank Ian Luntz (born February 23, 1962) is an American political and communications consultant and pollster,[1][2] best known for developing talking points and other messaging for Republican causes. His work has included assistance with messaging for Newt Gingrich's Contract with America and public relations support for pro-Israel policies in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. He advocated use of vocabulary crafted to produce a desired effect, including use of the term death tax instead of estate tax, and climate change instead of global warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Luntz

This man is a propagandist. Do not use him as a source for anything. You might as well just listen to the Trump campaign if you're going to listen to him.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

Damn. Axios really should have mentioned it is a partisan pollster. That’s disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Trump’s debate performance was awful, but so was Biden’s, and somehow because this country is weird as hell Biden is held to a much higher standard than Trump while also being immensely unpopular.

Trump's performance as a debater was awful. He ignored the questions put to him, and frequently lied through his teeth. But, you could put a clip from this debate alongside a clip from his debate with Hillary 8 years ago, and not really see much of a difference.

The reason people are freaking out is that Biden's age was on full display here. His stutter was much more visible, his voice was raspy at times, and he frequently couldn't finish his thoughts before the mic went off. We also have a long history of his time in government to know how he used to be.

If this election turns into a referendum on Biden's age, he loses. Even though Trump is only 3 years younger. Trump doesn't show it.