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Seagate opens an eBay store to sell refurbished hard drives — 22TB drives for $311
(www.tomshardware.com)
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this post was submitted on 23 Jun 2024
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They didn't work the first time, let's sell them again.
Didn't know they tried this before. What was the issue the first time?
Quality issues?
Seagate has a pretty bad rep for failures. Depending on who you ask, they're anywhere from trash to the least reliable major brand.
I sit somewhere in the middle of that tbh. Closer to the trash side since every time I've had a Seagate drive in anything, it failed way sooner than what they claim they should, and they tend to fail hard and fast. Not much warning, so if you use them, you damn well better not lag in your backup routine, or you'll lose data.
For the prices they charge, they should at least be okay compared to other brands.
So, any refurbs they sell have already failed once, or had enough trouble to be sent back. If they couldn't get it right so often as to be able to sell refurbs in large numbers, I'm pretty damn dubious they actually fixed anything well enough it won't happen again. And I tink that's what the other comment meant.
Agreed regarding Seagate's brand perception for consumer HDDs.
I would also not risk buying these refurbs, unless it was literally for something that I didn't care about.
In German the name has been used for a joke. "Sie geht oder sie geht nicht", it works or it doesn't work, sounds a lot like Seagate when you pronounce it German.
that's pretty funny :)
I think they’re saying Seagate drives are unreliable out of the box.
They’re refurbished because they broke and “didn’t work the first time”.
The fact that a 22TB drive has already been refurbished does not fill me with hope regarding its longevity
(For context, these drives in particular can't be older than literally a year)
I think you underestimate the number of drives they produce...
I think you've missed my point:
Seagate have a pretty bad reputation anyway, and these are refurbished disks that couldn't even last a year. I don't expect they'll last much longer a second time.
On the other hand, I bought a few refurbished HGST's on Amazon and found they were brand new like many had claimed.
That is many "refurbished" drives are drives that a company bought by mistake and returned without ever unpacking them. They can't be sold as new but they are.
What I'm saying is that if you make enough of a product, from day one there will be defective units and that will happen with each and every manufacturer out there.
For sure, but emphasising the Seagate reputation part:
Expecting the new disks to be good is a foolish thing to do,
Expecting the refurbished ones to somehow exceed that expectation is even more foolish
I don't think anyone is expecting a refurbished disk to last longer and I don't know why you're trying to argue based on that...
Would you buy a disk expecting it to fail in less than a year?
I expect the failure rate to be higher than on a brand new product, you're just making the assumption that because it failed once (if it actually did, could simply be a disk that was returned after purchase) it will fail again as quickly, which is a pretty bad assessment.
Yes, though it's not an assumption, it's based on the reputation of Seagate making new drives that fail quickly. I've made a point of emphasising this.
Even if the drives were never used they've been shipped about a few places, so they will objectively not be as good as new drives, even movement is potential wear on spinning disks—the new drives that are already shit.
I'm really sorry, but I'm not really sure how I can spell this out clearer than I already have.
Oh you make spell it very clearly that you're just making a bunch of assumptions and don't understand what refurbished means or how mass production works, no need to worry.
No, I do, but never mind; let's not waste each other's time
Nope, you don't :)
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