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[–] [email protected] 81 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Mfw Rustaceans don't exist :(

Also, JavaScript...why are you the way you are? Does anyone have advice for learning it so it makes sense? I can't even get tutorial projects to run properly...

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This meme is older than rust.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

actually it says 8h meaning it's only 8 hours old

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

It will be 8 hours old forever.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Forever young...

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

use typescript and don't look too hard at the infrastructure

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Last company I worked at used Typescript, but used any for everything... I have no idea why. I never got an actual answer.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Because they didn’t want to train their JS developers and didn’t want to cause friction for new projects. They get to say they’re using TS, with basically none of the real advantages. (Apart from general rational error checking.)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I tried, but the infrastructure collapsed on me.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I like Douglas Crockford’s talks about the “good parts” of JavaScript. They’re old and probably a bit outdated, but he explain quite well the history and why JavaScript is the way like it is.

It clicked for me when I saw them the first time. Still hate JavaScript though.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What Crockford did was enable a lot of devs to realize there was a viable development platform built into the most prolific and open network client in the world. For that he should be commended but it should have never been taken as "this is a viable general purpose language".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

He also showed that JavaScript has more resemblance to functional programming languages rather than object oriented ones. If you try to treat it as an object oriented language like Java (like the seem to imply), you will have a bad time.

This has changed with TypeScript though.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

The mantra that got me through JavaScript was "almost nothing we do here is able to be synchronous".

Everything about the language makes more sense, with that context.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can it even make sense tho? To me JS is an example of a not too good thing that people started too eagerly so now they're trying to make it make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Start simple.

And that probably requires not going with a tutorial. Because the JS ecosystem scorns at "simple". Just make some HTML scaffold and use MDN to understand the DOM.