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I'm noticing more and more Apps actively trying to avoid Themes and instead opting for the fixed default look. Even some of the Default Gnome Apps. And then there are initiatives like Please don’t theme our apps. Is this the slow death of GTK Themes, and if yes, why?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because GNOME aren't interested in building a desktop that works well with non-GNOME programs.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One day, GNOME will be seen as those arseholes who tried to fragment further an already small and fragmented environment, for petty reasons like "i has a vizhun".

That day was yesterday, by the way.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it was years (lots of them) ago. But maybe that's just me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Days, years, they're all in the bottomless past. Might as well never have happened.

(Serious now, as the above is just me being silly: 13 years, with the release of GNOME 3.0.)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

It was 1.2 for me, when they broke the window manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They get paid to do this, btw

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you have further info? That's a thing that I'd like to dig further into - why GNOME went from "decent but heavy desktop environment" to "oh look «those guys» /me facepalms".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The main devs at the center of every gnome related drama consist of a few particular individuals who are paid by red hat. I believe the original developer Miguel de Icaza left the gnome project and joined microsoft, and from that point the project made it's focus on replicating mac os and blindly follow some supposed "vision" where concepts like theming don't exist. They even explicitly stated they don't care about cross desktop compatibility and would rather have a separate operating system for gnome. Any further than this and they'll call you a conspiracy theorist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the info. That's... sad, really.

Any further than this and they’ll call you a conspiracy theorist.

I'm probably one now - it was inevitable to connect GNOME's obtuseness to Red Hat violating the GPL. It sounds a lot like IBM trying to make its own operating system, lacking the means to do so, and exploiting open source to do it for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's not that deep lol. They just want to avoid writing extra code to make their apps and toolkit compatible with the wider linux desktop. Being the closest to an "official" desktop environment and having paid volunteers, they have a certain responsibility to make their things desktop agnostic. But they act entitled and really just want to minimize their work. Gtk 3 and below were close to perfect. Gtk 4 and libadwaita are the embodiment of everything wrong with gnome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

But why would they make their own Apps non-GTK (Gnome Software Store, Gnome Settings, System Monitor...)?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

non-GTK

What do you mean?

Gnome Software Store, Gnome Settings, System Monitor

All of these programs use GTK.