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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Goodbye YouTube. Hello…?

[–] [email protected] 107 points 5 months ago (6 children)

PeerTube. Except nobody's going to use it until everybody uses it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It needs to start with the illegal route and just upload all of YouTube's content on there, then gradually start paying content creators for their work, and become legitimate. This is how crunchyroll got big.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Load it to what? Who's going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage. How much are y8u willing to host? Peertube is never going to take off because it well cost users and people like free.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People like free as in not having to put in your credit card. But they don't mind seeding, as evident in piracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

That'd require a bit more knowledge than the average YouTube user has, unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Who’s going to pay for all the bandwidth and storage.

The users -- it's all bittorrent.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Just add "decentralized web3 mining" somewhere in the page and crypto-dipshits will host the shit out of it. No actual cryptocurrency nor even a whitepaper required.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You're right, but I dream that one day enough people will realise that the "free" model is shit and be willing to pay.

I'd love to support a content producer on peertube who hosts their own content - the proviso being that their content is engaging enough to want to watch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

It's called network effect

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just went and looked to see if peertube is remotely viable.. technically seems working. I found an app on f-droid, got on a bigger instance (1k users seems about the biggest). Videos load and play. There isn't much content at all. A real shame. So yeah we don't have an option

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Other than using Patreon or something on the side, I don't see how anyone is going to make money off of creating Peertube content, either. Becoming a millionaire Youtube star à la Mr. Beast or Linus or whoever the fuck is obviously every aspiring videographer's goal on there, whether it actually happens or not, and that inherent commercialization draws creators to the platform regardless of whether or not we think it's for good or for ill.

Peertube, if it ever takes off, will probably be like early Youtube in that the people posting to it will be enthusiasts who want to, not personalities doing it in the hopes of getting rich. That might be a good thing, depending on how you look at it, but don't ever expect the kinds of ultra-produced, professional content we see on Youtube these days coming from people who can afford to hire camera teams, video editors, sound people, scriptwriters, on-location shoots, etc., etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I upload my videos there. Started off because professor wanted us to record ourselves then I just uploaded whatever. It's not much but it's honest work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

PeerTube doesn't have the allure given by the chance of getting paid for what you upload

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

you can still get paid but you'll need to make your own revenue stream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)