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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they cap prices on food, then you'll see food shortages instead of expensive food

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

How so? In my country, certain basic food items are priced capped AND rationed, meaning you're only allowed to buy a certain amount of it at a time.

> but but but muh freedum market$$

No! Worldwide, the agricultural sector is THE MOST SUBSIDISED economic field. You can't have it both ways. If taxpayers' money is used to prop up your business, you have a duty to the taxpayers and country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most food here is locally produced, I don't see how that would create a shortage. Like people aren't going to sell their grocery stores cuz their margins are thin again and farming is so heavily subsidised that I don't see it effecting farmers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

*affecting

And you're wrong. Farmers and grocery stores are already operating on thin margins. Sure we could double subsidies but then why not just make food free instead? How about we just make food free for people who can't afford it, maybe with some sort of special card

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Farmers yes, grocery stores not anymore. Profits of companies is public info here and they started racking it in the moment the massive 'inflation' started. My parents live near a farm and they just buy veggies directly from them for like a fraction of the price, I unfortunately live in a city though. Prices are better at local markets but there arent many of those.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a local producer can get more selling to someone in the next country, they will. Basic economics. Prohibit them from doing so and they might plant something more profitable or just say "fuck it" and let their fields lie fallow, if they're not making a profit. Farming ain't free and farmers are on thin margins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Small farms are long gone. Farmers the the most heavily subsidized sector in the country, and they’re not run by Ma and pa, but big multi-national corporations who use extractive agriculture that damages the soil, results in worse yields than more sustainable agriculture, and requires insane amounts of chemical fertilizers, is rapidly contributing to the death of all of our most critical pollinators.

I have really almost no sympathy for monoculture farmers who grow thousands of acres of almonds using trillions of gallons of water in a state perpetually under severe drought.

Literally, just by seizing the lands used to grow alfalfa for Saudi Arabia and almonds in California, the majority of the country could be fed cheap on low water, low maintanence, high yield food forests. We don’t need to subsidize murder farms where pigs are fed to their children as slurry when that same land could be used for vertical gardening.

The use of farmland for exclusively profit driven reasons is what drove the Great Depression. Farmers don’t deserve A profit if what they’re growing isn’t sustainable or catered towards the health of the people.