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submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

Queensland Government promises to build yet another (probably tolled) fucking car tunnel. @brisbane

Fuck this makes me **so** angry. We KNOW this doesn't work. You want to solve congestion, road diet the existing roads. Build good bike infrastructure. Build good public transport. How does this happen with a single off-the-cuff announcement when *months* of back-and-forth debate over public transport network with the NWTC went *nowhere*.

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[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

They use your tax money to male toll roads too?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, you pay to build it with your taxes and then you pay to use it as well. It's a win-win!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

@Pistcow not confirmed that this will be tolled, but it's going to start from the end of one existing toll road which, yes, was built by a mix of public & private funds and is now privately-owned and tolled. I expect this will be the same.

But my objection is *primarily* about the fact that it's being built at all, rather than about who's paying for it, per se. Even if both are bad.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It will use tons of public sector resources and attention regardless if it's PPP or a state asset.

Just look at the recent Logan/Gateway Motorway upgrade (Logan Enhancement Project) which Transurban financed for $512M. There was least $30M of government spending directly afterwards on an adjacent road, and likely more than $100M to come.

No doubt a $7b tunnel will similarly result in $100Ms or even billions in adjacent road spending.

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