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Four more Israeli hostages have died in Hamas custody (www.nbcnews.com)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you think those thousands of women and children were part of the decision to attack Israel?

No, it's somewhat irrelevant. I'm not saying it's okay to bomb those people.

Please look up how many Palestinian civilians have been killed by military actions vs Israeli

What do you expect exactly? That I would say "oh so Israel lost much less people in the October 7 attack than Palestinians in XX years, so it should just do nothing"? History doesn't matter when it's about specific decisions with predictable consequences, and the fact that those could be avoided in the first place. Don't cut the branch you are sitting on.

They're have already been several attempts by whatever is left over of Hamas to surrender/cease fire

How difficult it is to release hostages and surrender? I think just one attempt would suffice. Is it difficult because some of them refuse to agree that this is the simplest and fastest way to try to save Palestinians and show everyone they can work on their mistakes?

You've called them terrorists the whole time

My primary complain is their stupidity. They are people. They can learn. Maybe they will stop being terrorists if they do that, I can't know. But they surely aren't helping their fellow Palestinians as is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, it's somewhat irrelevant. I'm not saying it's okay to bomb those people

You've already blamed them and called them all terrorists....

What do you expect exactly? That I would say "oh so Israel lost much less people in the October 7 attack than Palestinians in XX years, so it should just do nothing"?

No, I would hope that you would apply the history of the region to gain greater context over the Oct 7th attack, it didn't occur in a vacuum.

History doesn't matter when it's about specific decisions with predictable consequences, and the fact that those could be avoided in the first place.

Again, these people are in a giant concentration camp. It would be like blaming the Warsaw uprising for the destruction of the polish Jews.

How difficult it is to release hostages and surrender? I think just one attempt would suffice. Is it difficult because some of them refuse to agree that this is the simplest and fastest way to try to save Palestinians and show everyone they can work on their mistakes?

Because Israel has already stated they won't negotiate for the hostage release, they don't want the hostages. They want a genocide. Have you not been reading the news about this subject like at all?

primary complain is their stupidity. They are people. They can learn. Maybe they will stop being terrorists if they do that, I can't know. But they surely aren't helping their fellow Palestinians as is.

You are a fucking idiot. Hamas only had around 10-15k active members in their military, a significant number of those were killed on Oct 7th or in the following counter attacks.

The reason why the Israeli military has overwhelmingly killed primarily women and children is because Hamas is already destroyed. There are a few cells left in hiding, but the organization has no control over the Palestinian population.

You're nothing but a psuedo intellectual bigot tripping over clumsy arguments to support war criminals. Go kick rocks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

You've already blamed them and called them all terrorists....

I did not call women and children that, you're lying or imagining things.

it didn't occur in a vacuum.

It wasn't effective and they knew it wouldn't be.

Again, these people are in a giant concentration camp.

You can't escape or shut down a concentration camp like that. That's my point.

Because Israel has already stated they won't negotiate for the hostage release, they don't want the hostages.

Funny. If that's true (and I know it isn't) then there is no use in keeping hostages anymore. Release them and let the world see how Israel doesn't want to stop even after that. Also stop wasting resources on them. Win-win.

There are a few cells left in hiding, but the organization has no control over the Palestinian population.

Who keeps those hostages then?

to support war criminals

No. What they are doing is war crimes and all criminals should be prosecuted. Israeli are much more likely to meet that simply because they are a part of a system that can take care of their citizens. And if not, I hope at least enough people will remember that for the sake of future generations (similar to how Americans remember what they did to Japan). On the other hand, hamas has no chance to get any such treatment (simply because they are not fans of proper justice-related systems) and it should be rightfully hated by all Palestinians for their actions and decisions. Unless hamas suddenly gets smarter and starts to care about Palestinians. That would surprise me, and in a positive way.