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UK clothing sales to EU plummet as Brexit red tape deters exporters (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Please try to understand; it's very important. Every trade agreement we make costs us sovereignty. You want a publicly owned NHS? Too bad. It's on the negotiating table when we deal with the Americans. In secret.

EU directives around human rights, environmental protection or animal welfare are not trade agreements.

They are effectively terms of a trade agreement. Goods traded in the EU have to meet standards.

The cost of leaving the EU is money well spent.

To what end? Nothing is better. Many things are worse. Is there any payoff at all?

This just seems absurd to me. I see no such increases.

Exhibit A: The Rwanda scheme.

you want less corruption, less cruelty, more respect for human rights, and you're happy to give up degrees of democracy in order to have that.

I simply don't believe we will have "more democracy" outside the EU. We elected our MEPs. We do not elect our trade negotiators, nor those with whom they negotiate. In terms of democracy, we're swapping a pittance for nothing. So I'll take the reduced cruelty and corruption, and the human rights please.