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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Bikes on trains should do it. The train gets you within a few miles, the last part can be done with your bike. All the efficiency of a train for long distance, all the flexibility for short distance.

With pedal assisted cargo bikes people can even haul a surprising amount of stuff. People here are already using those pedal assist bucket bikes for getting toddlers to school.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Imagine you can rent bike at train station and put them back at the train station. In Luxembourg we can rent bike for 19€ a year.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but that one day when the bike rack is empty except the one with a flat tire haunts you the whole year though.

It is a good thing for occasional use IMO, if I go to work every day I prefer the "safety" of having my own bike (I'm 198 too :-)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah I agree with you some time I had to walk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And as long as everything you need fits in a backpack that works great. And most people still but a car for the cases where it doesn't work, and if you have a car anyway, why not use it more.

But those bikes in docks and the scooters do work great.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Rent the car too.. here we have rental car by hour.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Depends on the cargo.

Doubt many train passengers would like it if people delay the train because they have so much cargo they need to unload and bring to their rented car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

True, maybe it is time to rethink things completely. Some time ago the SNCF was doing some wagon dropping. Letting a wagon with fret in some stations

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Bc cars consume the space needed for people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can store most bicycles on trains, where I'm from people have fold-up bicycles that will fit under a seat even just for last-mile transport. Cargo bikes won't fit on a train though, they'll block aisles and standing room. I doubt hauling a whole-ass train car just for bicycles is cost effective.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's cost effective when you take the same amount of cars off the road and factor in what those cars would have contributed to

  • road maintenance
  • road congestion (mental health)
  • environment
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

That seems a classic chicken-and-egg issue. There is no room for cargo bikes because it's not cost effective. That means people can't easily take their children and stuff anywhere except with a car. Because everybody uses the car, the train cars are not cost effective.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

They are very common where I live. They are designed so that people can sit there if no bike is using the space. And usually they are bikes. Still not enough space for a cargo bike, but more than enough for a normal one.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

There is this kind of bike rack in most regional trains in France.

They are generally not really usable at rush hour unfortunately but the rest of the time traveling with a bike on the train is quite pleasant.

bike rack in a train