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Could spraying sea salt into the clouds cool the planet? An experiment in Alameda, Calif. highlights the controversy surrounding research on altering the environment to cool the planet. (wapo.st)
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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Why is there no "controversy" about destroying the planet, ongoingly with petroleum products?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

It’s the WaPo. They report to you the republiQan talking points in their best liberal-npr-radio voice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Because we're being wise enough to question if this might have unintended consequences. For example, it might just shift the problem elsewhere and cause more severe draughts for someone else. Just a hypothetical to point out why people might not be immediately onboard with this.

Tho, fun fact, California has been doing this kind of stuff since at least the 60's. It's called cloud seeding and we've had numerous programs running. They just never got much attention. But technically, the chem trails conspiracy is based in a bit of truth. It's just not every airplane, but it's happening. A quick Google search will give you tons of government pages about it. It's not a secret.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Genuine answer: This is controversial because it is to intentionally alter the climate. We use fossil fuels for energy, not to alter the climate. The climate stuff is a negative side effect of fossil fuels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Once you know the side effects of something, if you continue doing it, that's intentional. So I don't think that distinction makes much of a difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

It makes a massive difference. It's the reason why one of them is considered a controversial new technology.