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edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol

Also shoutout to @[email protected] who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don't mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is going to give a lot of GOP Senators a fig leaf.

If someone puts a motion in Congress to make it illegal for him to run, a lot of them will vote for it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I absolutely do not want a ban on felons running for President. In some countries, that is used as a political tool to eliminate political opponents. Putin used that against Navalny.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42479909

Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny has been formally barred from competing in next year's presidential election.

The Central Electoral Commission has said Mr Navalny was ineligible because of a corruption conviction which he says is politically motivated.

He has urged his supporters to boycott the March vote.

Mr Navalny, 41, was widely regarded as the only candidate with a chance of challenging President Vladimir Putin.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not to mention, Trump won't even be the first person in the USA who could be running for president from jail.

edit: the first from a major party though, sorry Debs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

His felonies are related to campaing financing, which could be used to narrow down without banning all felons. While I oppose anyone losing the right to vote, I don't oppose people who are connvicted of treason, insurrection, or felonies related to campaign finance or abuse of elected positions being banned since they have been proven to have undermined democracy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

I get allowing former felons to run for office - they served time that society said was their punishment. They are done with it.

But a law that bans a felon that has not completed their punishment is a different story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

All the more reason for the Republicans to support it, TBH.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We've banned them from voting for decades.

Also, the USA isn't Russia and Biden isn't Putin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Not running, though. Much harder to use that to eliminate a political opponent.

Also, the USA isn't Russia

No. But I'd also like to keep it that way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Then keep Donald out.

This was not the first time Trump has had a run in with the law. When he was building Trump Tower he employed Polish immigrants and treated them so badly that they won a million dollar settlement against him

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-undocumented-polish-workers-tower-paid-settlement-millions-bonwit-teller-building-new-york-a8080336.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

How do you propose such a bill be advanced through the GOP controlled house?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

bad law. I'd much rather a law where the candidate has to describe the nature of their past convictions in a written statement submitted with their filing paperwork to run and explain why each one doesn't affect their ability to run the country.

Aka reflecting on one's crimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Except assholes like trump see themselves as victims of a witch-hunt and he would write that out , sorry: he will have a lawyer write that out for every one of them. I doubt he has the attention span for it.