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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As someone with little knowledge of Formula 1 I have a question. Seeing how fucked this car is and knowing how ridiculously expensive each car is, who is going to pay for its replacement? Will Ocon’s team have to pay to replace the car or will Red Bull foot the entire bill themselves?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A team has to foot the bill to repair their own cars.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Can you please answer my stupid question. Why there is a shaft (support frame? guard?) right in the middle of the driver's vision? What is its purpose? Can't they just put it to the sides so it doesn't block the view of the driver?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If you put it to either side it ruins their peripheral vision. This just splits their forward vision. This Halo, as it's called, has saved lives.

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't notice it. Rarely an F1 driver is looking directly straight ahead, but when they do, they just tilt very slightly to see around it.

Since 2020 there's been 4 distinct events where they've saved a driver from either death or paralysis.

The most famous being Grosjean's crash where his car smashed through a barrier at 220kph (137mph) but the top section of the barrier didn't collapse because the car only contacted the bottom half. So the halo plowed through it where it would have otherwise been his head.

Definitely watch this knowing it's from Drive To Survive and they massively overdramatise—he climbed out of the fireball after 15s, not the 10mins+ Netflix makes it out to be, but they have a collection of the best footage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It has saved the lives of many of its opponents, like Grosjean, and has since its introduction has proven itself many times. Amazing how much safer F1 is today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

totally forgot about grosjean. at about 1:25 you can see that the car punched through the bottom rails and the halo pushed the top one over his head.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I really like this one of the coverage.

https://youtu.be/7YMjw2sjXqU

Still can’t believe he walked away from it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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totally forgot about grosjean.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

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it's called a halo, and it's to protect the heads of the drivers.

here's a slow mo

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just like your nose, stereoscopic (I think that’s the right word) vision will blur out things right in the middle of your view. It’s actually not very distracting at all and you tend to not notice it at all when driving (at least in VR in racing sims).

You also find yourself looking straight down the middle so infrequently that putting the supports to the side would actually block more of the view.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I play F1 games on flat screen, that halo support is straight down the middle of the screen and it's annoyed the hell out of me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

On a flat screen it’s entirely different since you’re only getting a single perspective instead of two different views. It’s one of the reasons VR can be really great in racing games such as iRacing.

I also turn off the halo when I’m playing on my triples. It’s only when I’m in VR that I’ll leave it on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

The funny thing is that the center support of the halo (that's what it is called if you want to Google more info), is not in the field of view. A driver very rarely looks straight ahead. Mostly they look at the apex of the next corner.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Put a finger right between your eyes and look far ahead.. finger mostly disappears. That's how drivers do.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ocon wasn't involved in this crash, he collided with his teammate in another part of the track. Magnussen touched the wall and consequently hit Perez' car.

As others have stated, the teams have to pay for their own damage. This is a bit controversial to some, but these are the current rules. It wouldn't be a big deal for the bigger teams money-wise, the main problem is that this counts towards the budget cap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Surprised Ocon didn't get a 10 seconds time penalty anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

He did which was then converted to a 5 place grid penalty for the next race as he retired before serving the penalty