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I just watched a video about Utah and apparently Mormons are pretty tolerant of just about everyone and even though it's a red state they're pretty progressive on social issues.
Take with a grain of salt, my source is a YouTube video.
Edit: I was misinformed lmao
Mormons tend to be nice ... to your face. As soon as you leave they're likely to act like you'd expect followers of an extremely socially conservative, regressive, patriarchal religion would.
And I'm not saying all Mormons are like that -- there are good people that are mormons, but it's in spite of what the church teaches about gender, sexuality, and sin.
Nothing about the religion's teachings about gender, sexuality, and sin support mistreatment of people who believe or act differently. The broad strokes your applying to the entire religion is exactly the same as saying that all Muslims are violent terrorists just because of the actions of an extremist few.
In short, it's bigotry.
Huh. I thought it was because I'm familiar with LDS teachings, culture, and the church's extensive, sordid, and recent history of sexism, abuse, and bigotry.
Which is extensively documented by people that have left the faith.
You linked exmormon.org? That's one of the most vitriolic and biased websites dedicated to spreading hate about members of the Church. It's clear you're strongly prejudiced, so there's no point in me trying to convince you to look beyond your own animosity.
Good day.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/transgender/understanding?lang=eng
This reminds me very much of the "hate the sin, not the sinner" that never actually happened.
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/official-statement/same-gender-attraction
Mormons are not at all tolerant. Just because they aren't calling for the death of LGBT people, and are still willing to take their tithes, doesn't make them tolerant.
You are conflating tolerance with approval. There's a spectrum of attitudes one might have towards any particular group of people. Here they are with most friendly on the left and most unfriendly on the right:
Kinship -- Friendship -- Approval -- Tolerance -- Disapproval -- Distrust -- Fear -- Hatred
Tolerance is the acceptance or putting up with something that one doesn't approve of. Institutionally (and broadly among individuals) the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is tolerant of LGBT people, but it doesn't not approve of LGBT lifestyles. It sounds like you want more than tolerance. In a pluralistic society, I don't think that is a reasonable position to take.
In a modern society, people who discriminate against others about their gender or orientation are called bigots. I'm fine with calling LDS that.
The religion's teachings expressly prohibit discrimination on any basis. Seems to me the only bigot here is you.