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I work with a person that went presented with a problem, works through it and arrives at the wrong solution. When I have them show me the steps they took, it seems like they interpret things incorrectly. This isn't a language barrier, and it's not like they aren't reading what someone wrote.

For example, they are working on a product, and needed to wait until the intended recipients of the product were notified by an email that they were going to get it. the person that sent the email to the recipients then forwarded that notification email to this person and said "go ahead and send this to them."

Most people would understand that they are being asked to send the product out. It's a regular process for them.

So he resent the email. He also sent the product, but I'm having a hard time understanding why he thought he was supposed to re-send the email.

I've tried breaking tasks down into smaller steps, writing out the tasks, post-mortem discussion when something doesn't go as planned. What other training or management tasks can I take? Or have I arrived at the "herding kittens" meme?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is that employee autistic? One of the things that management requires is learning to communicate with all types of people and help others communicate. After all, your job isn't producing something, it's making sure your employees that do the actual work are able to do their job effectively.

I'm just using autism as an example because I happen to be on the spectrum, though I've learned to mask well over the years. Autism has tons of advantages in the way we think. Great at analysis, great at handling emergencies, etc., but our communication style is a little different. We tend to need communication to be direct and precise because we analyze things too much sometimes. Problem is that because we're so used to being misunderstood or misunderstanding people and getting into trouble for it and being scolded for asking clarifying questions because we "should just know what they meant", that we often don't ask the questions and try to interpret things in all the possible ways.

And maybe it's not even at this job that they were scolded, they just are used to neurotypical people scolding them for the way they think, that they no longer even try to ask questions. So my advice is to make sure the person is not only able to ask questions, but is encouraged to do so if they need to. Make sure to be very positive when they do and make sure the other people they interact with are positive as well. It's a very small accommodation that could help them thrive and end up being one of your best employees if given the right atmosphere.

Again, I'm using autism as an example because it's a commonly misunderstood condition that is not a disease and not curable, nor should anyone try to cure it, it is just a different way of thinking and is a spectrum of various types of ways of thinking that people are often forced to mask and so is commonly undiagnosed or misdiagnosed. Heck, I didn't figure it out until a few years ago and I'm in my mid-40s. But it took me decades to learn to effectively communicate without knowing why some people just couldn't get me. Even now I tend to over-communicate as you can see from this wall of text.

But as a manager you should try to get to know your employees' strengths and weaknesses, communication styles, etc., and help them to communicate more effectively with each other. It has helped me to be effective at coordinating people.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If they are it’s not something that’s been told to me.

I’m very aware that people have different skills and limitations and adjust accordingly. I have done a lot, including helping organize tasks, reviewing issues when they come up, setting goals, positive reinforcement, asking how they want me to change to help them further, suggesting learning opportunities, suggesting social interaction opportunities…

Let’s not assume I came to post this without first trying different techniques, researching topics on how to manage people like this, and reaching out to management peers for possible solutions. I’ve had a few upper management people that knew this person tell me “some people just don’t get it” and “they have possibly hit their peak”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ok, I was just assuming you were looking for advice, but if it's just a vent post, that's my bad.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

I probably should have included that these were all great responses; just that I’ve tried them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’m very aware that people have different skills and limitations and adjust accordingly. I have done a lot, including helping organize tasks, reviewing issues when they come up, setting goals, positive reinforcement, asking how they want me to change to help them further, suggesting learning opportunities, suggesting social interaction opportunities…

One thing you have not mentioned trying is encouraging others in the organization to replace the words “this” and “that” with the actual referent in their communications.

For example the email that said “send this to them”, could say “send the product to them”.

Disambiguating the words “this” and “that” in communication seem like a much more direct path to avoiding this problem than the steps you described.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Thanks, I will do that. Keep in mind that I presented a single situation. It also applies to things like following documentation steps, and coming up with steps on their own to reach a defined goal.