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[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sure, in the West Bank. Gaza is forfeit. It's a collapsed state, lawless, unincorporated territory, irredenta, free to whoever can establish order.

Even from just a physical standpoint, the very foundation of Gaza's cities and towns were turned to Swiss cheese by Hamas. Nothing is stable. Gaza has zero capability or capacity to rebuild itself and literally nobody else cares enough about Gaza to do it other than Israel. Qatar only sends money if Hamas is fielding soldiers to kill Jews, the West only sends money if Hamas tricks enough human shields into being "martyred."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gaza is not forfeit, it can be rebuilt. But anyway, if you agree to a state in the West Bank, then you should have no problem with Palestine having full UN membership, right?

the West only sends money if Hamas tricks enough human shields into being "martyred."

This comes across dehumanizing and frankly, disgusting. They are not "shields" by living in their fucking houses. They didn't build the tunnels did they? Why should they die because of them?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

They have a long way to go on anti corruption and human rights before they deserve membership.

They shouldn't die because of tunnels. They should evacuate and get somewhere there isn't tunnels. Just like the other 98% of the population has done.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They have a long way to go on anti corruption and human rights before they deserve membership.

What about China? Myanmar? Venezuela? Tons of others. This is clearly not a requirement.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/un-charter/chapter-2

Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter and, in the judgment of the Organization, are able and willing to carry out these obligations.

Literally would be possible if not for the US's veto.

They shouldn't die because of tunnels. They should evacuate and get somewhere there isn't tunnels.

Aren't there tunnels basically all over? And how the hell would they know where there aren't tunnels? Leave your home and go to the middle of nowhere amidst constant bombing and chaos with thousands of others so Israel can bomb it's way down to subterranean tunnels?

"Your apartment block has been marked for destruction, please climb over the bodies of your neighbours and calmly make your way to the designated safe zone... by which we mean the zone that is probably safe for now"

Some dystopian shit right there. Everyone went to Rafah and now look

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

The UN could not have existed at all without its charter members coming together for the future of the world.

Membership in the United Nations is open to all other peace-loving states which accept the obligations contained in the present Charter and, in the judgment of the Organization, are able and willing to carry out these obligations.

Seems clear to me they aren't ready. Excise Hamas from the West Bank, excise Iranian corruption, stop the rocket attacks, destroy the tunnels, and then talk about the West Bank and the PA's willingness to carry out it's obligations. Can't have their cake and eat it too.