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"b-but bears are actually dangerous!" Shut the hell up.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

People's safety is more important than people's feelings.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Indeed. It strikes me as pointlessly gendered. All people, safety is more important than feelings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The whole thing was meant to be rage bait.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

or it's purposefully gendered in response to the man vs bear thing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Which is also rage bait

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Even then it's contradictory. Men wouldn't be upset about being chosen over a bear and women wouldn't be safe if the bear was chosen, so in that specific context it's nonsensical.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

What wat? What do you want to know?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most bears don't seek out and attack women, but many men do. One of those happens far more often than the other, and you're either uninformed or willfully ignorant about that fact.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yet another exhibit of people not knowing anything about bears. If bears and women had anywhere near the same amount of interactions as men and women, maulings would be up by a percentage with an alarming number of zeroes. This is like the literal equivalent to the Face Eating Leopard Party supporters being surprised that the Leopards are eating their faces.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah this meme as well as the original bear one were meant to be divisive and make people angry. That's the point of these kinds of memes, they're not really meant to be intelligent, they're meant to stir up drama and make people fight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

~~you know what else is pointlessly gendered? the patriarchy~~

feminist messaging has to be gendered because the patriarchy is a gender issue.

that said, feminism is for everybody. liberating women from oppressive structures by nature does the same for men.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If it’s not gendered and is for everybody, that isn’t that just the original statement? That safety is for everybody? That seems rather circular.

But I think I get what you’re saying. We focus on lifting up women, and everyone benefits.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If this weren't gendered I'm not sure I would connect that this was posted as result of people's reaction to the bears vs men thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Physical safety or psychological safety?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

this statement is funny to me, because linguistically, safety is a relatively "felt" concept. We "feel" exposed in a massive open field, and we "feel" safe inside of a building, because we are no longer exposed in a massive wide open field.

In some aspects, physical safety is a thing, but given the context of this thread here, i think it's probably appropriate to say that it's actually the feeling of safety here, that matters more than anything. And as a result, this makes the statement a non starter.

Because to some degree, that feeling of safety, is based on well... Feelings, and if feelings are somehow less important than the safety that those feelings are capable of deriving, than how are you supposed to experience safety?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

the bureau of land management is on some shit istg

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That gives me feelings of "All lives matter" which minimized the issues of black people. Can you explain why this is different?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Except one has built in meaning and the other is a simple meme made by one person with an oversimplified idea used likely to stir up people considering all the discussions happening about bears or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not, this tread is filled with Incels.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Some people seriously can't hold any conversation about sexism without introducing the word "incel" for the sake of it.

I wonder, can that be cured?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

alright that's enough for today

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

BLM, no sarcasm.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you really all lives mattering this post rn? God damn dude. I hope every person in your life belittles every problem you personally have by telling you that tons of people have that problem.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

BLM, no sarcasm.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

And all lives matter, right? How else can we commandeer this conversation?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

BLM, no sarcasm.