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[–] [email protected] 166 points 5 months ago (2 children)

For the shoplifting thing, it depends which store it is. Big chain grocery store? Yeah, I couldn't care less what someone takes. Small single owner shop? Fuck you for stealing from that guy. Those stores struggle enough just trying to compete with the Walmarts of the world.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Stealing food? I didn't see shit.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely yes, but also, choose your targets. Walmart ain't gonna miss it. The local bodega will.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People who shoplift are only considering a single factor: what's the likelihood this store ends up caring and puts me in jail eventually.

Turns out, plenty of stores will NEVER stop you provided you dont exceed a certain dollar amount or try to walk off with large appliances.

Its not hard to find a stores policy around theft and prevention.

Its a coincidence that big box stores are stolen from more, not a moral thing.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

When the food is multiple grocery bags full of steaks I'm a little less inclined to a charitable view.

That said, I'm still not going to do anything about it. Intervening on the behalf of a grocery store is insane, even if I were opposed to what's happening. Not my monkeys, not my circus.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Gotta eat to live, gotta steal to eat, otherwise we'd get along!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Riffraff! Street rat! I don't buy that! If only they'd look closer… Would they see a poor boy? No, siree They'd find out there's so much more to me

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wal mart is still the one and only store I used to steal from back in 90’s. Had to wear umbro shorts since they had that webbing in them and then grab a few CDs and beads to make necklaces that I would sell. By the time I got to high school I was over the shop lifting thing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Much like pirating Nintendo games, it is morally correct to shoplift from Walmart, assuming you have the skill to get away with it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Plus it was the only way I could get CDs with explicit lyrics like Rage Against the Machine

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Most stores don't stop you. The security guards are just there for the police report and a description. That said, if you get recognized coming back to the same store, they will call the cops.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

If there's a police report, you didn't get away with it unless you're never going to that store again. Which is probably not usually the case.