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Let me explain the question:

If fox news and religious propaganda are exactly that, propaganda, then they are victims.

If, however, every person is free to listen to what they want and then rant against liberals, migrants, Muslims, Arabs, trans, gays, atheists, you name it, then they are just gullible.

I’d have more patience for a victim than a gullible person.

Everybody is free to believe what they want to believe. What I don’t get is why they have to stir things up and why they believe they are the only ones getting it and everyone else is dumb, woke, a communist or is going to hell. Why can’t they keep their opinions to themselves?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

I for one am done trying to empathize with and understand regressives. Its not complex. They are children, plain and simple. Developmentally they are children. When you give the car keys to your 7 year old the results are predictable. Their only actual ideology is they want everything they want right now, always. They operate on pure emotional reactivity and have no semblance of actual morality, ethics, or even a plan moving forward. I want what I want right now. The way to deal with these folks is literally square one kindergarten shit.

  1. Do you like when your brother hits you?

  2. Thats not yours!

  3. You need to share

  4. Etc.....ad nauseum

Donald speaks and behaves at a 5th grade level and hes their fucking messiah. He SPEAKS at their level, speaks TO them in a way they understand. Their religion teaches them not to grow up. "My FATHER in heaven"........" We are the CHILDREN of god"..…..... They see the world as big, complex, and scary and desperately want a parent, a father figure to make everything alright. People overthink this shit. Conservatives are children and need to be treated as such before they burn down the world.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

When you stop empathizing with people, you've taken a step toward dehumanizing them. You aren't under any obligation to empathize, and goodness knows it is tiring. However, it is important to realize that once you stop empathizing, you are more likely to accept extreme solutions in a subconscious attempt to resolve your frustration.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Sympathize? Sure. To empathize would be me taking on the burden of their mental illness. Not healthy for anyone involved. To sympathize requires understanding. I understand them, they are children. Do we dehumanize children or use "extreme solutions" on children? No we dont, however we treat them appropriately......as children and we'd be negligent to give children the car keys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

You have simultaneously also described why you can't easily unite a left-leaning base. My issue is obviously the most important (and so is everyone else's to them) at every moment. Also if you are a rep you are honor bound to resign and recuse and be a perfect parent of the children in the other camp.

Yes, we can walk and chew gum, but you can't chase every car in the lot at the same time and you can't shoot yourself in the leg out of honor when the competition is going to shoot your other leg for spite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Depending on your definitions (empathy, sympathy, and compassion are often confusingly defined and contradictory between dictionaries), you ARE empathizing by realizing they are mental children. You're just not sympathizing and therefore deciding no longer to act with compassion, which makes plenty of sense to me.

IMHO it's good to empathize with the right (understand your attacker), but it's also important have to understand that whatever the underlying reasons, these people, when activated into an idiot army they become a dangerous group.


The definitions that make the most sense to me is

Empathy - understanding the perspective of another, where there desires and fears come from. It takes intelligence to not just project one's own personality on everyone else and understand that they are different.

Sympathy - Feeling in sync with another (like when you speak of sympathetic guitar strings causing each other to vibrate). Like you see the bombing in Gaza and not just understand that they don't want to be bombed (empathy), but imagining the pain of losing your child.

Compassion - The positive treatment of another due to having sympathy for them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I think you have the words the other way around

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I think there is a real problem with infantilisation - and (Warning: unpopular opinion) a large part of this is the marvel films and manga trend. Those always over simplify every problem to a short, violent solution.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Those always over simplify every problem to a short, violent solution.

Yeah, entertainment totally didn't do this before Marvel and manga. 🤨

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, blaming entertainment (actual entertainment, not "news" that weasels in court calling itself entertainment) has been a thing since the stone ages. It wasn't true about rock and roll, it wasn't true about dime novels, it's not true now about superhero stuff.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are we really that sure that tv did not actually "rot people's brains" to varying degrees? I would be interested in a more rigorous study of this before we dismiss all entertainment influences as simple culture war bullshit due to the genuinely overwhelming overuse of culture war arguments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've looked into this before for arguments with my mother trying to get her to stop saying there's a gay agenda. Her argument was because I enjoy the videogames and sci-fi I wasn't smart enough to understand the truth. The science has actually been done (though I'm sure more still needs to be done).

Research by a scientist named Schwartz in 2016 showed that those predisposed to anti-social behaviour are also naturally pre-disposed to watch more TV. When accounting for genetic traits, previous research into negative affects of TV didn't hold up amongst children and young adults (mentally, physically yes, but we already knew sedentary lifestyle has negative impacts).

A (I Believe Johns Hopkins but I'm going from memory) 20 year data evaluation released in 2021 showed that excessive TV can contribute to cognitive decline over time (they measured a 0.5% reduction amongst the adults they tested). The main scientist I remember saying they didn't account for type of media and did think educational content like documentaries would have a smaller impact though he couldn't guess by how much. His worry wasn't about the average adult making decisions but rather preserving as much mental capacity long term so as to help reduce impacts of dementia.

A 2023 UK study backed up the 2021 and 2016 study. Excess causes increased health risks and a long term small measurable cognitive decline.

Everything I've seen points to, for the most part, the amount being the problem as with everything. Moderation is key and living a diverse life that stimulates you mentally overall is important. Manga or Marvel movies when you want to relax is not going to rot your brain. Only consuming them will, same as with any type of media or genre.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thank you for writing that out.