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I have a Prius. Not for any stupid "I'm saving the planet despite still driving an ICE car" reasons, because I save a lot on gas.
Doesn't stop every "rollin' coal" asshole from doing it when they drive by me because "haw haw dumb librul hippie." You sure showed me by spending a lot more on gas than I do.
Man I recently got a 2010 Prius off an auction. Very cheap purchase and it works great already getting savings on gas. But I did notice people have the urge to want to pass or take over when I'm in it even though I'm definitely going fast enough. Funny enough it doesn't happen when I'm in my Miata going the same speed.
Literally children who want big loud vroom vroom trucks with lots of chrome.
my favorite fun fact is that one time that one 16 year tried to roll coal on bicyclists, and then just ran them over and killed them.
When its a culture of hate, people only need a little push to become bigotted.
I agree with this. I'm looking at a plug in hybrid for my next car. It's a bit more costly up front, but day to day, it should save me so much. Hybrids are better, sure, but plugin hybrids can charge overnight, when we have remarkably low electricity costs where I live, especially overnight, so charging it up is trivial in costs, and it can run a good distance on the battery alone.
If I want to go fast, and have fun, ICE cars and race tracks are things still, I can go do that. In the meantime, there's still a speed limit on the freeway, so while your fuel burning monstrosity can go 200mph+... You can't.
For commuting/daily chores/errands, a plug in hybrid is easily one of the cheapest options available, especially for me, per mile driven (or kilometer, if you're not American).
I still want a weekend/fun car, but for daily driving, plug in hybrid is going to get me there for a lot less.
With the prices of everything going up, it's the only logical choice.
Really depends, had a plugin hybrid.
The use case for phev versus hev is pretty narrow. the added battery weight and space was significant.
Plugin part was great for a daily commute of under 10 miles (had ~20 mile ev range) but with ~50 mpg, that was saving less than a gallon a week.
And on longer trips the added weight was dead weight. That let me take less stuff when i needed to take stuff.
Maybe they engineered the ones your looking at better, but that was my experience. For me its a choice between pure EV or HEV.
Good luck.
The model I'm looking at is ~45 miles (70km) of EV-only range. Electricity where I am drops under 10c/kWh overnight, and the model I'm looking at is a PHEV.
I work from home and only rarely do I have to commute to a job site, 90% of my driving right now is around town and much less than 45 miles total per day. Having the EV charging start when rates drop and stop when they rise again, would be something I would be doing. Since I don't have to drive every day for work, several nights of fairly slow charging would fill the ~ 17 kWh battery, even at 10A on 120V.
So every time I go out, I'd likely be starting with a to full charge, and my first 45 ish miles are basically free.
The big difference is that trucking generates profit while car use is a personal cost. Rolling coal is negligible to a guy who probably doesn't even own the rig in an industry where ROI on shipping is well above the cost of the fuel. Meanwhile, we've spent a long time dismantling our rail networks in order to profit the automotive industry.
In the end of the day, everything is made deliberately less efficient in order to carve out more and more little profit-centers for middle men and profiteers. It might look stupid and inefficient to you, but to them its just a fringe benefit in an industry with literal money to burn.
Rolling coal generally refers to people who have modified their pickup trucks to intentionally belch out black clouds of smoke.
I've seen it most commonly performed by big 18-wheeler trucks. No real modification necessary, when they're already old and dirty.
That's probably just their truck being shite, without regular maintenance, and such. As you've pointed out, lots of them don't own their trucks, and "rolling coal" generally refers to the practice of intentionally modifying a diesel truck to shoot out unburnt diesel fuel, usually through a straight pipe, and usually angled to be facing other cars or people they're hazing or whatever, from what I've seen. It's not unlikely that semi truckers, which is a sector that uses a particularly large amount of diesel compared to the normal car having population, would have a percentage of the fleet at any given time which is falling behind on maintenance to try to eek out more profit. Maybe their engines are just running rich, or probably more likely they have clogged air filters. Dunno what would be causing it to get past the catalytic converter and the rest of the exhaust manifold though, and just blow out straight with black smoke. That all seems like it would probably have to be modified intentionally, to see it with any frequency, ja? I dunno, hard to say.
I dunno I also say you've seen it around austin and san antonio, around college campuses, and that checks out to me as a more political kind of phenomenon, then just, say, seeing people running around town and hazing bikers or whatever.
So, I dunno. Does it count as rolling coal if your car is just shite?
Tons of these shite trucks driving through college towns and having maintenance issues at peculiar moments.
If you're belching ash explicitly to harass a motorist you don't like? Absolutely.
have you ever seen a semi do that intentionally to block the vision of other people driving on the road? Or specifically, just to be an antagonistic force of the road?
Yes. Very common in and around Austin and San Antonio, particularly near the college campuses.
It's mostly assholes in pickup trucks doing it.
when the fuck were people using their personal vehicles as company vehicles? And when were company vehicles noted for rolling coal and being a general public nuisance, while doing an illegal act? Surely any self respecting company that isn't committing crimes already is going to reprimand employees for that shit.
If we're talking about semi trucks, than i don't know why you even left this comment. Those are a non problem?
Business Expense: Rolling Coal
Its more likely than you'd think.
If you've ever had to drive on a highway full of semis and smell all that gross exhaust, I think you'd feel otherwise. When they're just belching it deliberately (used to be common place when they passed through Austin, TX and wanted to Own The Campus Leftists) its even worse.
that video you linked isn't being actively malicious or anything.
that's kind of just true for all vehicles, the exhaust part at least. I could see that happening in texas though im not gonna lie, texas seems to be full of a bunch of pretty dumb people from time to time. But even then i'm really sure it counts as "rolling coal" as used in common parlance when referring to road rage type incidents. As per the OPs comment.