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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Here's polling to support your points:

https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/

Still, I would bet that Israeli supporters in every category skew conservative and probably aren't going to vote for Biden regardless.

I do agree that he's trying to ride the fence, and it's not a good look from either side.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Still, I would bet that Israeli supporters in every category skew conservative and probably aren’t going to vote for Biden regardless.

As I said to another poster: There's 7.5 million jews vs. 250k palestinians. Even if Biden supported Palestine from the beginning and only lost a fraction of support from Jews, that fraction is still likely higher than the entire Palestinian population.

Let's say the split was 90/10. 90% of the jewish population wasn't going to vote for Biden regardless. 10% would have. That 10% still represents 750,000 people, which is still 3X higher than the entire palestinian population.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm agreeing with you, but if you look at the demographics, you'll see there are several categories besides just Palestinians who do not think Israel is justified in their attacks on Gaza.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

62% of the US Jewish population supports Israel's actions. That's 4.6 million people + an unknown number of non-Jews that also support it. Is the number of Palestinians and their supporters higher than 4.6 million? I legitimately don't know, but if it isn't, then my point would still stand: Biden denouncing Israels actions at this point would piss off even more Jewish people and put him at even greater risk of losing the election, while also having the side effect of anti-semitism spiraling out of control.