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Seinfeld says that far left woke mobs have killed comedy. He also dated a 17-year-old.
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this post was submitted on 01 May 2024
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I partly agree. It’s okay to make fun of just about anyhing as long as it’s not biased(repetitive jokes always agaisnt the same people/group). It feels like nowadays people will be offended by everything. You can make fun of, say, gays, without being agaisnt them. Look at South Park, they’ve made fun of literally every possible group but it feels like so many of these episodes wouldn’t be received well id they came out today.
Thats the thing, comedy hasn't stopped. Regular people aren't offended if you make a funny joke about a sensitive topic.
Rob McElhenney from It's always sunny was just talking about this the other day. They make racist jokes, gay jokes, jokes about abortion, mocking the homeless. There's a WHOLE episode done a la The Whiz where the gang wakes up in black people's bodies. You just have to be sure that the joke is told in a way that doesn't lift it's message above being just a joke, and that means the person telling it has to be relatively clear on the side of the joke's subject. You can't punch down, that's never been funny.
South Park and it's always sunny and family guy and those kinds of shows haven't neutered their jokes, so why do people keep saying that you can't make fun of anything anymore? The only people I see that say that are parroting comedians like Seinfeld and Chapelle and THEY'RE STILL SELLING TICKETS, so they're not 'canceled' and their livelihoods aren't affected, so why are they saying they can't make the jokes they continue to sell tickets for?
That's the key difference between conservative bullying and real comedy. Real comedy doesn't punch down.
I personally disagree, I think comedy punches everywhere, and occasionally those punches land down. Conservative bullying on the other hand, only punches down, over and over.
I think Jimmy Carr punches down. I think it's okay to punch down as long as it implicitly understands that it's wrong. I think that's why some Frankie Boyle jokes (who used to write for Jimmy) land as well as they do.
Conservative comedy can sometimes be good? The thing is that it needs to thread a better needle.
Because they just want to say racist shit and not have anyone call them out on it, which isn't quite the same thing.
Yeah I agree with you, that wasn't a legitimate question on my part. It's either they want to say some heinous shit, or, catering to "anti cancel culture" gets them a secured and easily riled up audience.
True comedy doesn't need a victim. That shitty humor is comedy at its basics. Juxtaposition is universal in animals and recognized as "funny". Juxtaposition with inherit victims is low class low effort shit posting rage baiting humor. It relies on a weak mind accepting it.
My main point/perspective is all humans posses inherit indestructible dignity and I will fight anyone who fights my fellows on this s Journey we are all taking called life.
Jimmy Carr is makes fun of gay people. He just does it in a funny way without trying to be offensive, so people still like his comedy specials. It helps that he is incredibly self-deprecating and does things like suggest he's a pedophile.
There are ways to make jokes about sexuality without being mean. That's the trick.