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Rulings question... "creatures get" modifier and cards that care about power/toughness when creatures enter the battefield (lemmy.ml)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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What happens when an opponent plays a creature if I have a Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite in play ("opponent's creatures get -2/-2") and my opponent has Pantlaza in play? Does Pantlaza get the trigger off the creature's original stats or off the number resulting from Elesh's reduction?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@bec remember 'creatures' only exist in play, every we here else they are 'creature cards'. This can be a handy way to remember that these effects care about the properties of the creature in play, not on the stack.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, yeah, I get that. Only had a small doubt about whether the -2/-2 from Elesh Norn would get priority over the triggered ability or the opposite would happen. Thanks for the reply!