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[โ€“] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

they should be called regressives

[โ€“] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (6 children)

What do conservatives even want? Like just to set everything back centuries is all I can see. I've never seen one of them create or improve anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They want the power fantasy of everyone having to listen to them while never having to listen to anybody else

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yup, to them freedom is both unlimited freedom to and freedom from, only for them. They never took a philosophy class to understand the contradiction (presumably because thinking too hard is woke?).

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Conservative politicians want to be elected. And the way they want to do this is by stoking meaningless (and mean) culture war issues to keep their base a)angry and b) not focused on economic inequality caused by their donors.

[โ€“] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

To the Conservative mindset everything is a zero sum game.

Give rights to minorities, thatโ€™s taking rights away from white men.

Give restaurant patrons the right to dine in a smoke free environment, thatโ€™s taking away the rights of smokers

Increase the minimum wage, thatโ€™s devaluing the wages of everyone else

Probably the most telling in a US context is Medicare for all. Free health care devalues their paid healthcare. I mean healthcare is healthcare (sure some doctors are better than others) the only reason someone would be upset that other people could be entitled to the same healthcare as them, whilst costing themselves less, is because these people think they are more deserving of healthcare than other people.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Not centuries. It's more like they want to live inside a sitcom from the mid-20th century, where everyone is white and middle-class and living in a "traditional" male-led nuclear family that occupies a house in the suburbs, and pollution and its ilk aren't even worthy of mention.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Everything to be like when they were a kid. Uncomplicated, no real problems like nowadays with the wokes and the taxes

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Conservatism varies tremendously by time and location, but I don't know if changing or improving is ever the point. Some combination of doing it the way it used to be done, hurting the right people, and supporting the existing social hierarchy go into the mix. There's also movements like libertarianism that tend to glom on to Conservatism, but done straight are a very different animal.

To be fair, progressive ideas can be bad sometimes too. Eugenics is a great example that all the cool forward-thinkers were into for a while. At least we try though...

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

But at least we provide somewhat for people and try to do things. I can't think of anything conservatives have ever done. Just wreck shit.

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

They should be called narcissists, because their "conservative" beliefs shift to occupy precisely the space where they happen to live. If they personally benefit from the status quo, then they must defend the tradition. If they benefit from change, then it is a moral imperative that the world conform to their point of view. A rational person might call that hypocrisy, but it's not really anything more than selfishness.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

The Regressive Cutservices Party.