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Selfhosted messenger/community software like discord (lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello, I would like to hear your opinions about a good selfhosted messenger like discord.

To list exactly what I mean by that is:

No need for federation ( only will be used by friends )
E2EE
Support for direct messages
Support for discord like server management by which I mean the ability to set rooms and topics for such rooms.

From what I know, this seems to be more similar to slack alternative's but wanted to hear opinions of others.

I have been thinking about either matrix, mattermost, rocket.chat or revolt chat.

I already have a XMPP server, but setting up encryption and client's has turned away quite a few people I would like to get onto this platform.

EDIT: As pointed by other people E2EE isn't needed for my usecase if no federation.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You keep missing the point. When you have access to everything you can inadvertently be exposed to something you don't need to see. I don't want to get a notification from the backup system saying "folder /syncthing/dad/Furry Porn changed while we were reading it" and then have to go gouge my eyes out. This is the kind of thing that can happen when you ask someone to entrust you with ALL their most private stuff. Everybody has secrets and stuff they need to stay private.

So instead of asking "am I trustworthy" you need to ask "do I REALLY want to fucking risk stumbling over super private stuff"? Because I can guarantee you will sooner or later.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Sorry, but you are making excuses and you know full well that other online services are not any more secure, but less so. If something like your totally made up example would actually happen then you would need to have a stern talk with your dad about not uploading stuff like that to a remote computer, period.

E2EE is a band aid at best and mostly used to justify using commercial services that are inherently untrustworthy.