this post was submitted on 01 May 2024
737 points (96.5% liked)
movies
1924 readers
358 users here now
Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#fediversefilms:matrix.org
Warning: If the community is empty, make sure you have "English" selected in your languages in your account settings.
A community focused on discussions on movies. Besides usual movie news, the following threads are welcome
- Discussion threads to discuss about a specific movie or show
- Weekly threads: what have you been watching lately?
- Trailers
- Posters
- Retrospectives
- Should I watch?
Related communities:
Show communities:
Discussion communities:
RULES
Spoilers are strictly forbidden in post titles.
Posts soliciting spoilers (endings, plot elements, twists, etc.) should contain [spoilers] in their title. Comments in these posts do not need to be hidden in spoiler MarkDown if they pertain to the titleβs subject matter.
Otherwise, spoilers but must be contained in MarkDown.
2024 discussion threads
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I never hated Skylar, but I get why she's in the meme. Anna Gunn does severe so damn well.
I also don't mind Dolores Umbridge's actress because I hated her in the book far, far more.
Jack Gleeson should come back and give it a shot again. And I can't tell who the other one is.
Jeffery Dean Morgan as Neegan (sp) in The Walking Dead.
I think his role as the Comedian in The Watchmen was more hatable, at least the character was pretty awful in a grounded way instead of the silly over the top Walking Dead kind of way.
That character was so well done (The Comedian, I don't remember Walking Dead well enough). He's more tragedy than contemptable depending on your sympathies, but that was kinda' the point. It's almost the point of ANY "good" bad character. Give them motivations that are understandable by non-psychos, just make the character make poor (poor, not stupid) or mean decisions.
... and his acting helped round out the character instead of flatten. He genuinely seemed like a good guy that got insanely jaded and went off the deep instead of just a bad guy.
He was contemptible as Neegan. Very well played.
I think he was only starting to be introduced by the time I wandered away from the walking dead. Though the little I remember, he was definitely all asshole and killing it.
Good-looking bad people are always liked no matter how badly behaved their characters are.
I'm not sure that applies to The Comedian, but then I'm not particularly attracted to guys, and some people find some weird looks downright hot.
... Though I still hate how right you are. Looks or power. People respect them when they should NEVER respect looks or power. Ever. Sure, many good looking people are respectable, but not because of looks. It's NEVER looks or simply having power (or money) that makes someone respectable.
Heck, maybe the problem is people conflate "like" with "respect", like I did above. Or maybe the problem is those words aren't so different in practice...
The Comedian was my favorite character from Watchmen. Not because I think he was good, misunderstood, or any kind of role model. I just found him very compelling.
That movie is so fucking good and Jeffrey Dean Morgan absolutely killed it as the comedian.
I never watched that show, thank you.
I stopped when he showed up, not because of him as I enjoyed him in other roles, but because it was when two of the last three characters I enjoyed watching were killed off. One character wasn't enough to keep me interested, and it was looking like they were just going to be doing the Governor 2.0 with how much they were playing him up.
He was also great as the Winchester's dad in the early seasons of Supernatural.
The Comedian somewhat repented though. He hated himself for all the evil he'd done. He was awful, but at least he realized how awful he'd been in the past and felt bad about it.
Skylar wasn't even evil or anything. Just a normal good person. Walter was an absolute piece of shit who chose to reject legitimate help and support, and instead do illegal villainous things.
But that's also the mark of a well written show, when you're compelled to take the side of a man making the wrong choices, to walk that line with him. And then be yanked the fuck back by the writers at the end.
"I did it for me. I did it because I was good at it."
Masterful.
Do good people fuck Bob?
Jack Gleeson is acting again. I saw him pop up in the last season of Sex Education in a small role.