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this post was submitted on 27 Apr 2024
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kbin (at least kbin.social) has a nice little community, but we're holding on by a thread over there since we've been overrun with spammers and nothing is really being done to combat it. A good chunk of people have jumped ship because of it, but we're still trying to fight where we can.
I made an mbin alt, but I haven't really hung out enough here to get a proper feel of it. Honestly it feels like looking through a window to the rest of the fediverse. If there's any chill mbin (edit) ~~instances~~ magazines, I'd love to know!
Beehaw seems to have the most positive vibes, and I really like that. It seems small, but they're pretty active. I mainly enjoy their gaming community.
I think I interact the most with Lemmy, but that's probably because that's where most active instances are. You'll get a lot more different takes on there than anywhere else, some great, some not so great, but that comes with any site where you bring a bunch of people together.
Of course, these are from my experience and opinion. I'm interested to see others' takes.
It's because beehaw mandates its positivity. I once called out one of their posts as being fascist and they banned me for being rude about it.
I feel like any place that forces people to be positive in a world where there's so much injustice is always going to passively side with evil.
That’s an interesting point, but I wonder - what happened to the post you called out?
Besides, they didn’t force people to be positive. That would be unrealistic. When I was a Beehaw regular, you could find lots of posts about negative, unjust things. That wasn’t a problem. They simply didn’t tolerate people who failed to express themselves in a respectful way.
There’s a difference. For example “are you feeling okay?” vs. “you look like shit.”
How do you respectfully say "this is nazi propaganda?" You can't. That's the point. That's why they do it.
“To me, this reads like Nazi propaganda. What am I missing?”
All i'm trying to say is them defederating from lemmygrad tells you everything about that instance that you need to know. Hexbear I get, but grad holds themselves up to a way higher standard of comment quality and there was zero reason to defederate outside political. They literally only blocked the instance because they were communists who aren't afraid to calmly debunk fascist propaganda with sources, and that's an experience corroborated by literally anyone who has had the displeasure of interacting with their polite-fascist administration.
EDIT: the example you provided is not only completely useless as it guts the original intent of the message but is STILL too offensive for them, as bringing up fascism is already "killing the mood" more than enough for them to remove. Not only that they would accuse you of calling the OP a Nazi which is another way they can shut you down. Believe me I've dealt with liberal fascists my whole life i've heard it all.
I think they wanted to see people giving others the benefit of the doubt, instead of making snap judgments. It’s very easy to get into heated arguments online that could be avoided with simple clarification and communication.
If someone is simply bad at expressing themselves, the extra “room” can make all the difference in the world. If they really are a jerk, though, all you’re doing is giving them enough rope to hang themselves. Win/win!
Then again, you’re talking to someone who hasn’t visited Beehaw in almost a year. I don’t know how their moderation has changed.
You can make all the vague guesses you want, I've lived the experience and can say flat out the instance uses respectability politics to shut out criticism. Like it's clear as day to anyone on the receiving end of that what they're about.
Thanks for adding the messages the mods banned you for.
You could say they force you, but I don't really see it that way. Beehaw should be a forum you can go to and have decent, comfortable conversation without offensive and heated overtones. I became so utterly sick of that internet tone from reddit over the years, and it absolutely extends to every other part of the fediverse except for Beehaw, because it's humanity that wants to be that way, not reddit specifically.
The only way to stop people from reacting with... that tone as you did is to moderate the shit out of it. You may not personally agree with it, but if you don't there are tons of other instances that are all rampant with people running around accusing each other of being politically evil and being dicks besides. Beehaw is a breath of fresh air to me that way.
Would I trust their method to run a nation's government? No, but a small internet forum where I might want to go to discuss things with people and retain a lower heart rate and faith in humanity? It's much better than any alternative I've seen.