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Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

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[YT] How Mozilla Ruined Firefox (www.youtube.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Actually pretty good video.

Search engine
Google location service instead of their own (which they quit)
FakeSpot & Pocket collecting crazy personalized data

Also info about difference between Mozilla Corporation and MZLA Nonprofit.

If you donate to Mozilla, nothing goes to Firefox. Instead they host petitions and beg big tech companies to be more transparent.

They dont focus on old users at all, and it seems they are unable to implement basic stuff.

I still recommend using Firefox, but with the Arkenfox userJS.

Or just use Librewolf.

Firefox is not usable. And dont donate to Mozilla I guess.

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[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be able to claim they’re not a monopoly.

Precisely. They are afraid of being perceived as a monopoly because of the consequences that come with that. Microsoft suffered it before with Internet Explorer and other products. The US DOJ is currently suing Apple/Malus for monopolistic practices. The EU passed multiple acts against large tech companies this year and has been on their heels for years now.

There currently is no well-funded effort to compete with Chome/Chromium that seriously cares about dethroning it. Were that to disappear, even the illusion of competition would too and suddenly Google's direct siphon of private data could become the focus of 2 major economic regions.

You want Google to create a new org to compete with Chromium after Mozilla dies?

Nope. It wouldn't help Google at all if they themselves created a new org. Lawyers wouldn't be dumb enough to fall for shadow competition (at least I hope not).

I want a new org to be established by people who actually give a shit about competing with Google, not just sucking on Google's tit and living off of their bare existence.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Check out the Ladybird browser (by the same people making SerenityOS), it's a new browser with its own engine. It's already functional enough for me to use it to post this comment (though it is still in very early development).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I saw that a while ago and two things made me go "nah":

it's C++ . 70% of CVEs on Chromium are related to C++ and faulty memory management. Google is actively trying to get away from it and these guys are building a brand new browser in it. There's Rust, Go, and probably other memory safe systems programming languages to use for this
Discord for support - no thanks

I appreciate that it was probably started in 2018 or something when other memory safe programming languages weren't as popular, but it simply isn't for me.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They're building their own memory safe language, Jakt, but it's not mature enough to be used by Ladybird yet. Dismissing it at such an early point for this reason is pretty dumb IMO, especially considering this is by far the most complete alternative browser engine, and it's getting better at a very rapid pace.

You're right about Discord though...

edit: BTW, I'd wager the complexity of Chrome's code base is still largely responsiblefor the introduction of bugs, even if most are of a certain type. Ladybird is extremely simple in comparison.