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Just weeks before launch, Fallout London is delayed as creator says “Bethesda never changes” (www.pcgamesn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Skyrim is one of the best selling games in history. A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles, where mod availability is limited. This whole concept of modders being the only thing making Bethesda's games successful is quite exaggerated, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Mods are definitely the one thing giving their games longevity, nobody would be still playing Skyrim or Fallout 4 nowadays if it wasn't for the plethora of mods. In fact I feel kind of sorry for people playing on console, because the vanilla experience is just mediocre as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I won't deny that mods extend their longevity. I'm just saying that there are plenty of gamers who are content with the vanilla games. Hell, Skyrim was an immediate success at launch, long before much of its mods came into existence. Same with Fallout 3 and 4. I'd argue the open world sandbox-esque design of the games are the main thing that give them longevity for the majority of players, similar to how tons of people still casually play any of the GTA games (and not just their online mode). Hell, most of the time when I see random social media posts for FO4, it's the vanilla game with people just showing off their crazy settlement builds.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

terrible. just terrible. im still playing skyrim and fo4 without mods. 99% of my playthroughs are vanilla. i have single handedly proved your comment wrong 🍷🧐

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I legitimately feel sorry for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

no, i legitimately feel sorry for you. your comments read like a madman raging at the world. oh how they dare have fun and i dont? oh how dare the world not be just like me? woe is me. woe is me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles

Well it has been released on every major console since the 360/PS3 era. So a major chunk is console sales.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Mods might not make them successful, but they do make the games actually playable and enjoyable, especially as each new release has more never-to-be-fixed bugs than the last.

I've got a friend planning to buy Fallout 3 for PC, but no way they'd buy that for console after all this time. The experience just can't hold up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I wonder why are you being downvoted considering the first mods in any list are performance and bug fixes lol