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Just weeks before launch, Fallout London is delayed as creator says “Bethesda never changes”
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Bethesda has done a great deal to discourage all modding efforts for the last couple years and they‘ll continue to do so until people stop buying their broken piece of code for an excuse of software. Which might happen sooner than later because the state of their games was always highly dependent on modders to fix everything constantly and there are fewer of them every day because of Bethesda’s incredible streak of ignorant decisions.
Maybe read the article. I know it's too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the article.
“Before you grab the pitchforks to go after Bethesda or tell us that we’re idiots and you know how to stop the update – remember, that’s you know how to do it, not the collective. This is a collective project; we want everyone to have the past four years of work to come out and be the best mod possible for all of our followers. We want to incorporate this special mod that we’ve created for everyone.”
“The fact that Bethesda is keeping what is an old game updated is honestly a great thing – many members of the team are very excited to see this,” he notes. “On the technical front, being able to play Fallout London with the new potential engine improvements and the performance upgrades is fantastic. It’s going to mean that we can push the engine even harder than we’ve already pushed it. This is all going to be a boon.”
Thank you for posting this. I was thinking that in a day when so many companies are pulling digital products, not pushing updates, and blaming consumers, that it was pretty damn cool of Bethesda to be updating anything outside a cash shop. Fallout 4 is (sorry everyone haha), 9 years old. Literally no one would bat an eye if they never touched the game again. Yeah, they have their own issues, though this is 100% a W and should be applauded.
With all the AI generated garbage flooding text-based news, I didn't bother reading it either. It's a waste of my time 90% of the time.
I don’t even read comments anymore.
I'm convinced you guys just don't read if you've never seen an article that's blatantly loaded with fluff so you'll scroll past more ads. Or maybe y'all are just that obtuse.
We literally had to create a bot to cut out all of the fluff in articles to make news these days more digestible.
I’ve seen tons of them. I never denied the issue. It’s real, and it’s very annoying. But using the fact that AI generated articles exist to justify spouting uninformed opinions based on nothing but a headline is ridiculous.
Instead of reading a headline, assuming it means what you think it does and being wrong, then writing a comment based on that wrong opinion, you could at least glance at the article. You have enough time to write an angry comment, you can’t spend 10 seconds glancing at the article to see if it has any info that the 5 word headline might not have covered?
Or alternatively, if it’s such an imposition, then just don’t comment.
Lmao you didn't even stop to read who you're talking to. I'm not the one who wrote the opinion, and I said as much in my first comment. I don't even agree with the guy.
At least now the downvotes make sense. Y'all are just having a reddit moment.
I saw that you were a different person, I don’t see how that’s relevant. You chimed in saying you also didn’t read the article because of your opinion that most articles now are AI generated nonsense not worth consuming. Nothing in your first comment said you didn’t agree with him at all.
I’d get it if the guy you replied to said “read the article, it’s super interesting!” and then you said “I didn’t read it because most text articles are AI generated nonsense so maybe that’s why they didn’t bother either” to add perspective.
But that wasn’t what happened. The OP spouted a nonsense opinion based off what he thought was going on, which was wrong, the next guy told him to read the article before running his mouth, and you chimed in to say “who reads articles, it’s all AI generated nonsense anyways now” which to me, comes off as a defense of spouting uninformed bullshit based off zero information.
🤦♀️ "I'd get it if the guy you replied to said exactly what he said."
The only one having a reddit moment is you mate, instead of admitting you posted a dumb comment because you didnt bother reading an article and didnt understand the context you keep pushing forwards attaking everyone. is it that hard saying: "hey, i'm wrong, i didnt read the article so i understood something different."? What is funnier is that you are not even the original op, but you obviously had the same thought process and felt attacked by being at that same level.
All I said was I wouldn't blame him given the garbage state of news articles these days, and you guys took that opportunity to put words in my mouth so y'all could get on your high horse. And you're still doing it after I said "I don't even agree with the guy" lmao. If there ever was a "reddit moment" it's this.
It's also really funny how you wrote this as if I was the other guy, then had to edit in the last bit to make it seem like you didn't jump to a conclusion after only reading the last sentence of my comment. The irony here is hilarious.
Yeah, at first i thought it was you the original op, because its funny how triggered you are, the difference is i was able to see i was wrong and edited my post. Anyway, keep salty and not bothering to read the most basic of stuff. Maybe you can think about it and see why you failing at first grade reading is why you are so trigger happy and tilted over anything.
Lmao, no, you thought I was "the original op" because you skipped everything about me not being him or agreeing with him, and only read the last sentence.
Maybe read more than 1 sentence. I know it's too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read more than 1 sentence.
I have to give you something, its funny how you will never admit you are wrong and keep pushing forward instead of reading your own posts for a second to see how clueless you are.
It wasnt because i had read only 1 line, it was because i had read all your posts attacking more people that replied to you about how stupid you were saying that you didnt read articles because of AI articles which made no sense in the context of a quote for an interview, even more from a website that is more or less popular and not known for doing AI articles as far as i know. Anyway, thats my last reply, you can reread your posts or keep crying, its your choice i guess.
Right, you only read the last sentence because you already made up your mind.
Cope lol
So your plan is just to read headlines and make assumptions? I'm sure that will give you a much clearer insight into things.
Maybe read the previous comment. I know it's too much to ask, but before saying stupid things, sometimes, it might be better to read the entire comment.
Mate, if you cared about your time, you wouldn't argue on Lemmy under a post about something you didn't even read.
I did read it. I said I wouldn't blame him for not reading it given how much garbage is getting published.
But y'all love getting on your high horse over false assumptions 🤷♀️
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Lmao fair, I didn't read it at first. I did read it after the first guy responded, though, and I assumed you responded to something further down the chain
Skyrim is one of the best selling games in history. A huge chunk of those sales took place on consoles, where mod availability is limited. This whole concept of modders being the only thing making Bethesda's games successful is quite exaggerated, IMO.
Mods are definitely the one thing giving their games longevity, nobody would be still playing Skyrim or Fallout 4 nowadays if it wasn't for the plethora of mods. In fact I feel kind of sorry for people playing on console, because the vanilla experience is just mediocre as fuck.
I won't deny that mods extend their longevity. I'm just saying that there are plenty of gamers who are content with the vanilla games. Hell, Skyrim was an immediate success at launch, long before much of its mods came into existence. Same with Fallout 3 and 4. I'd argue the open world sandbox-esque design of the games are the main thing that give them longevity for the majority of players, similar to how tons of people still casually play any of the GTA games (and not just their online mode). Hell, most of the time when I see random social media posts for FO4, it's the vanilla game with people just showing off their crazy settlement builds.
terrible. just terrible. im still playing skyrim and fo4 without mods. 99% of my playthroughs are vanilla. i have single handedly proved your comment wrong 🍷🧐
I legitimately feel sorry for you.
no, i legitimately feel sorry for you. your comments read like a madman raging at the world. oh how they dare have fun and i dont? oh how dare the world not be just like me? woe is me. woe is me.
lol
Well it has been released on every major console since the 360/PS3 era. So a major chunk is console sales.
Mods might not make them successful, but they do make the games actually playable and enjoyable, especially as each new release has more never-to-be-fixed bugs than the last.
I've got a friend planning to buy Fallout 3 for PC, but no way they'd buy that for console after all this time. The experience just can't hold up.
I wonder why are you being downvoted considering the first mods in any list are performance and bug fixes lol
If they're arrogant enough to think they can survive without the modders, let them die, I say. Fuck around and find out.
Edit: looks like I found the butthurt fanboys 😂 You people need to establish a sense of both taste and quality cause god knows you're only making the problem worse by stupidly throwing your money at Todd's false advertising.
We're downvoting you because you didn't read the article or the other comments which makes yours look foolish.
Frankly I don't care for the delusions of the other comments, whatever they may be. The comment I responded to was on the subject of the questionable decisions Bugthesda has made recently, evidenced in abundance with Starfield in regards to making even the modder's "job" difficult. Whether they're actively hindering Fallout: London or not changes nothing, especially not the fact they're a bunch of incompetent hacks, criminals and liars.
That's right, losers, keep downvoting. Denial has been proven to be medically beneficial 😂