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Alt Text: post that says dripping testosterone levels in men since 1980s is the biggest crime of the century.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (4 children)

A crime, no, concerning sure.

What is causing the drop?

[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Lots of stuff.

https://www.medichecks.com/blogs/testosterone/why-do-gen-z-and-millennial-men-have-lower-testosterone

Tld;r:

Obesity, Microplastics, Fewer smokers, Stress and mental health problems, Tighter underwear, Diabetes, Higher indoor temperatures

[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More sedentary lifestyle/not exercising

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has severely low testosterone and goes to the gym 4-5 times a week, that's just one of many potential factors.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It is, I was adding into the list the other guy had started.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fewer smokers

Why aren’t we making men smoke more?! Why isn’t the media talking about this?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Disclaimer: This is a pointless comment.

I watched “My Dinner with Andre” this morning and there’s a line where Wallace Shawn says “… when I was ten years old, […] Now, I'm 36, …
This guy, 36?

I rewound the scene so my wife could watch it when she flitted through the room because I thought the line was so funny.

But then I looked it up. Wallace Shawn was born in 1943, and the movie was released in 1981. Probably filmed the year before release.
I feel mildly bad for thinking it was a humorous line.

I don’t know if he smoked, but I’ve heard high testosterone can cause male pattern balding. That aside, the changes to humanity in just a few decades, for whatever reason, are pretty shocking. It’s likely that we have less pollution (that impacts humans, anyway), better understanding of things that harm us, and better access to preventative healthcare, that helps to ‘slow down’ aging.
That sort of makes me feel a little less cynical about folks who keep adjusting life milestones upwards. 30 is the new 20!, 40 isn’t middle aged, etc. I had just figured those folks were vain and delusional. But I do look way better than my dad did at this age, so maybe there’s something to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I worked with dudes that smoked like it was a job requirement that looked haggard AF at 30. I didn't recognize one of them 10 years later because he had stopped smoking and dropped a ton of weight - he looked 10 years younger than when I met him.

Smoking is bad, kids. And no, Vaping probably isn't much better.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Regarding your balding comment, many transmen go bald after starting on testosterone so that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Wait do people not wear boxer shorts anymore? Did I miss something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think boxers are best, but boxer briefs have seemingly taken over.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Having grown up wearing tighty whities, boxer briefs are much looser. I've worn boxers as well. In my opinion, there's not much difference. My boys have plenty of freedom in either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As I've gotten older my balls have started to sag a bit or I've gained some weight and get into a weird and uncomfortable position. Been thinking about getting something with more support.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Let the boys hang free

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago

Worse health in general it seems. And it's not as low as the graph the person shared

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/declining-testosterone-levels

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

An aging population.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Are you implying that societal trends aren’t evidence of crimes?