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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Cw discussion of dysphoria

spoilerThis sounds a bit like gender fluidity. Generally the rule of thumb is to transition to fix your lows for gender fluid people. If you feel suicidal over something, it's better to fix that than to feel good about something later, if that makes sense. Suicide is very permanent

But it's really important to measure how you feel when going about hrt for gender fluid and nonbinary people. I would suggest keeping a journal of your thoughts, what you were doing that day, and see if anything triggers the desire to feel one way or the other. Keep doing this, then if you think you've found a pattern,try something new, and then measure that.

Id like to point out that I'm very binary, but this is advice a genderfluid person I know gave to someone else. In general it seems hellish to me, you never really get rid of dysphoria completely if you are gender fluid.

For me as a trans woman, I never really felt good about my masculine characteristics. Muscularity id argue isn't necessarily one, but beards and so on are. Id even argue feeling fine about your penis is common enough for trans women. I could understand when I looked good to other people, but never felt that way myself, it felt like something was just off about it. It felt like my eyes never had any light in them, I couldn't figure out how to smile naturally, I felt like my skull was weird, my skin felt wrong (like it didn't have enough fat under it or something,or the texture was wrong). I felt kinda perpetually disgusted about all the tiny things T does to you

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for your insight, as always

dysphoria

In general it seems hellish to me, you never really get rid of dysphoria completely if you are gender fluid.

Not going to lie, I just kept reading this sentence over and over, and I had to get up and walk around because I felt like I was gonna barf. Because yeah, it kind of feels like that. Anyway, that sudden spike in dysphoria is actually instructive for me. I'll follow the signal and reflect on why I feel that way.

It felt like my eyes never had any light in them, I couldn't figure out how to smile naturally, I felt like my skull was weird, my skin felt wrong (like it didn't have enough fat under it or something,or the texture was wrong). I felt kinda perpetually disgusted about all the tiny things T does to you

I notoriously don't smile. Like, that's a thing about me that people comment on. My wife, unprompted, has said that I just look happier when I'm presenting femme. I smile in the mirror more when I'm femme. Also, random people and friends compliment me when I'm dressed femme. When dressed femme, I get more compliments in a week than I probably ever have in a lifetime of dressing masc. I also just generally feel a wider range of emotions when femme.

I'm also grossed out by a lot of T stuff. My skin, in particular feels wrong. Body hair, etc.

But it's really important to measure how you feel when going about hrt for gender fluid and nonbinary people. I would suggest keeping a journal of your thoughts, what you were doing that day, and see if anything triggers the desire to feel one way or the other. Keep doing this, then if you think you've found a pattern,try something new, and then measure that.

So, I think it's good advice to keep a journal, but I don't see the connection to HRT. Could you explain?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

So for some genderfluid people, they can have triggers that cause them to "swap" gender identity. If you measure these things you can find ways to avoid "swapping".

Again, just spit balling here, but measuring your mood, what you did, what seemed to trigger dysphoria, you might figure out if you're that flavor of gender fluid. Your experience is definitely out of the norm for a trans woman, but it could be you have hangups that are cultural too that are confusing it. (Re: muscularity, women with penises) It's possible you could be a lot of things

I think the important thing is to try to measure stuff so you have a more concrete list of things going on. For example I helped a xenogender person irl that seemed to have swaps based on sunlight, turns out the swap was based on vitamin d and taking that helped them stay more towards one identity

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

turns out the swap was based on vitamin d and taking that helped them stay more towards one identity

That's fucking wild

you measure these things you can find ways to avoid "swapping".

I don't want to avoid swapping all together because I like the expression, but having more control would be helpful.

Thank you so much cuddle