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Can Hexbears explain to me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

The only positive thing that I can think to pass on to folks, as a Burger-lander myself, is that it seems most of the fascists want to be at the top of the food chain too much to allow themselves to be ruled by anybody. Anybody with a small following seems hell bent on throwing all their supposed allies under the first passing bus if it gets them one rung higher than they were or if they can secure their own personal kingdom. World domination doesn't seem to be their goal. There aren't enough of them who want a "fourth Reich" so much as a pocket universe they get to live out their weirdo fantasies in like M. Knight Shamalyan's "The Village".