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...until it is someone with narcissistic personality disorder, psychopathy and sociopathy, but mostly NPD.

EDIT: There seems to be some misunderstandings about this post. It is not an attack on this community or the users here, it's just a general vent I have for the type of people that claim to be anti-ableist until it is something they don't like.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We're literally too busy doing damage control. This is just the 'but why don't you tolerate intolerance' argument. I'm sure there are people struggling with this stuff who manage to avoid hurting and manipulating the people around them, and that's great for them.

But we also live in a world rife with abuse and exploitation, and we won't get past it by just ignoring manipulation. We've got all these other people who've been victimized, so we kind of need to focus on them with this particular pattern.

You can't just will someone else to stop abusing others and face their own shit, and frankly it's incredibly hard to tell the difference between an abuser in the calm part of their cycle and someone who's stopped repeating it.

For me the litmus test there is honesty. I've given people I've known were manipulative another chance, but if they show that their interactions are still based in fundamental dishonesty, what am I supposed to do with that? Sacrifice myself endlessly in the hopes that they decide to stop treating me like a punching bag?

I think not. I think I'll be out here keeping an eye out for dishonesty at the root of people's interactions with others and run like hell when I find it so I don't waste another second of my life being controlled and tormented.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

‘but why don’t you tolerate intolerance’ argument

This was my exact thought. This seems like someone trying to excuse this shit. You can dress it up as just a personality disorder, but these personality types are toxic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

How come OP's talking about NPD, which is a disability, and you're talking about abusers? NPD isn't abuse. Did you reply to the wrong post by mistake?